I didn’t know autopilote was an Alabama invention 
Tom, you might want to watch this one. 1970 - last year of log floating work in Skellefte river:
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Thanks for the videos JO.
I bet those loggers sleep very well at night 
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Thanks JO; I love to see how they “use” to do things. The story is that most of the lumber to build Chicago, came out of this area. ( Eventually it burned up in the famous Chicago fire ) The saw mill in Peshtigo Wi. had it’s own dock and ships to ship the lumber to Chicago. The Peshtigo River is so small that I really don’t see how they could float logs down it but I do have some pictures of the logs coming over a falls where we now have a electric power plant. The original growth was some huge white pines. After 100 yr. we are now logging off the second growth and it is mostly pulp wood — some saw logs.TomC
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Gramps used to say that French creek was deeper before most of the land was cleared. The forest was a water capacitor or buffer. Slow release of water through the year. Could be all old timer talk.
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Great stuff JO.I’m sitting in the sawmill office, but still get cold watching. All our “stock” has the same name: CUMMINS
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I can vouch for that benefit to working horses and mules. I had a disk seat break off while I was disking a couple years ago. I lost the lines when I fell down into the disk. If I had done that on a tractor I’d be dead. As it was, I had a good team and they stopped immediately when I yelled “whoa”. I have also slept on the way home a few times and let the horse drive me home----(not an act I fully recommend). There are definately benefits to the horse. They’re great for snow. and mud. and small spaces…
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That is a fascinating vid. I recommend, From stump to ship: A 1930 logging film - YouTube
Sorry, there aren’t any mules shoes in it.
I know I am a little late to this thread but have a question for you sir. I am trying to find out why farriers would have bent the tips of mule shoes as opposed to the straight tips on horseshoes? I am an educator trying to answer this question and google has not been kind and you look like a man that knows what he is talking about. Thank you sir.
You’ve got that right! When Wayne talks, people listen.
I was always told draft animals have shoes with cleats riding animals do not. Interested to know if that bit of lore holds true.
Cleated are for animals working in soft ground like the woods is what i was always told they need better traction. Flat is for animals that only do light work where you don’t want the ground torn up.
Hey guys , I think yall might have me confused with Steve Unruh and other folks on the DOW 
What Dan and David said .
The regular horse shoe usually come with a small cleat at the rear . Racing shoes are flat and aluminum.
I have seen some mule shoes with very high hills . At the back of the shoe they were doubled back at the end just over and inch making them double thick at the rear .
Think of a mule pulling , the legs and hooves are not vertical but at an angle ( pulling stance ) . I think the hill on the shoes might make pulling a little more comfortable .
On another note and years ago.
Back in the middle 70s I shod 20 horses in a day . I started that morning with truck head lights and finished having to also use my truck lights I did have a friend helping . He was pulling the old shoes and dressing the hooves after I got the shoes on . Now it would take me all day to shoe one horse . 
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Did you have to make your own shoes— heat and bend them to fit or were you able to just take them off the shelf. I never had shoes on my horses TomC
Mr. Wayne,
We do listen a lot. We are just a little careful not to tip over your computer with a too heavy right hand like-list
Hello Mr. Tom.
Never made a horse shoe . I bought them by the 50 pound boxes . An anvil and hammer is needed to shape the shoe to fit each hoof. ( cold bending )
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Wayne, its harder work that most people think! Allso, a real test of mans nerves and strengh sometimes!
Did 3 horses about 2 weeks ago. Took me half a day. Our horses are heavy strong workhorses, and if she likes so she sends you skywards quite fast.
Anyone ever seen a oxshoe? Found them the other day cleaning the old scrap iron pile near the barn. Funny things 
Like this?
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Can you believe I am so cheap that I don’t even throw away old horse shoes
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OMG!!! So much engineering going into using old horse shoes ( especially the last picture) You have a lot of barrels around. Maybe you should try engineering a reuse of them to make a gasifier to run a truck on wood. OH WAIT!!! You did that already too. You are just an amazing person!! TomC
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I’ve given this a lot of thought. Fake news isn’t just something that was recently invented. Revisionist history books are written by the victors. In the case of the war between the States, the history books have white-washed the truth.
In the 1850—1860s, the States were sovereign and, superior to the federal government. Pres Buchanan resupplied Ft Sumter. later, Pres Lincoln re-garrisoned Ft Sumter against the orders of South Carolina. The FEDs claimed that it was FED property. South Carolina claimed that it was State property. :property. Lincoln illegally re-garrisoned the Ft and waited for a chance to force the South into attacking.
https://www.tulane.edu/~sumter/Reflections/LinWar.html
The “war of Northern Aggression”| had NOTHING to do with slavery. Lincoln freed the slaves in the South where he had no jurisdiction. He did NOT free any Northern slaves. Charleston and the south were just too rich and, the northern bankers wanted a cut. They imposed the federal GOV to lay on taxes, which it had no right to do. Even Lincoln said. I have General Lee in front of me, and the bankers behind me. Of the 2, I fear the bankers the most.
Lincoln clearly claimed that the war was caused by taxes.
Like much of American history, it has been sanitized by the victors.
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