# Gilmore style?

**URL:** http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899
**Category:** Charcoal Gasification
**Created:** [August 8, 2013, 11:37am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899 "2013-08-08T11:37:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 12:44am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/441 "2014-09-26T00:44:28Z")

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What size engine does that thing have? I would think it takes a fair amount of power to move a tank of water that large.

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 12:50am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/442 "2014-09-26T00:50:32Z")

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not sure yet, between 1000 and 1400 cc  
looks like a 2 cylinder watercooled, has gearbox and cardan to the rear axle…  
its a Tri-cycle 🙂 called Tuktuk in Thailand

the other one, they call it a Skylab

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 3:20am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/443 "2014-09-26T03:20:45Z")

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Gasifier been tested… ( without Co2 input )  
79% efficiency  
Output gas 11,43Mj/Kg

in rounded numbers per weight:  
Co. 60%  
H2. 3%  
HC. 2%  
Co2. 0,7%

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:53am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/444 "2014-09-26T04:53:22Z")

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the smallest set ever ?

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/e/e0a78f0724373891b13839dfcd1f75e46c0fc853.jpg)  
 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/b/bd36fbfb62e55eed150dc466962093a3681e8014.jpg)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 4:58am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/445 "2014-09-26T04:58:36Z")

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between generator and the Honda GX37

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/a/ac058095f824e469e2ba8c6b1c7cd9e39a55c7c1.JPG)

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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/446 "2014-09-26T12:54:45Z")

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Are those H2 3% test numbers with or without water/steam injection?

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/447 "2014-09-26T14:31:36Z")

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With moderate water drip into the coil.  
The data is calculated per weight of the gas, not per volume.  
( was to compare the input-output ratio )  
engine was running at 2400 rpm, gas output +/- 80 L/min  
could not go full throttle coz gas was to rich and air intake of the mixer to small ( disconnecting the hose and giving it some extra air did rev up the engine a lot.  
Now working on testing equipment and automation.  
The cost for proffesional equipment is high and the budgets are still small 😉  
But we applied for the budgets and are waiting …

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2014, 10:46am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/448 "2014-09-27T10:46:58Z")

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Above the numbers where per weight  
60% Co, 3% H2, 2% HC

Per volume that is:  
22% Co, 60% H2 and 1,7% HC

Have to find a balloon for the H2…

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2014, 11:16am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/449 "2014-09-27T11:16:31Z")

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the others try to build it…  
opted to change the size from the “little one” for the Honda. i keep writing and reading GX37, but it is an GX35, need glasses i guess…

Video starting the GX35 with the little one

> **[Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1555902821297504&amp%3Bset=o.189144991095617&amp%3Btype=2&amp%3Btheater)**

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2014, 11:58am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/450 "2014-09-28T11:58:55Z")

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i hope to start this one soon…

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/1/162a0fb18e5465a3183b904c8b5d6348ab4721d5.jpg)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/451 "2014-10-05T14:27:14Z")

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I installed this gas flow meter to give me an exact read out of the gas flow i am pulling ot the gasifier.  
Works great and gives me a good insight

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/a/a580fdd709be5ce606dc16c5323246ee3c45b432.JPG)

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### Author: ![kmrland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/kmrland/32/27959_2.png) [@kmrland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/kmrland)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/452 "2014-10-05T15:22:00Z")

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What is the range travel distanc goal on that baby / looks like quality work .

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### Author: ![kmrland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/kmrland/32/27959_2.png) [@kmrland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/kmrland)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/453 "2014-10-05T15:30:00Z")

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What is the range travel distanc goal on that baby / looks like quality work / how much wood does the 2.5 k generator use in 5 hours / THANKS ,COEN.

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2014, 7:51am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/454 "2014-10-06T07:51:35Z")

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My sets are running on Charcoal  
It takes about 0,5 kg per KwH ( less with full water drip)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2014, 10:21am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/455 "2014-10-07T10:21:00Z")

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Working on cam shaft timing and valve lift improvement. ( adding 2mm valve lift, 9 ° advanced )  
Ported the intake from 9 mm to 13 mm  
Fitting 1/2" ball valves  
Making a pick up sensor for Rpm and digital ignition home made CDI unit

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/e/e1928dc09fdef44f73a197f70366c0c4d88f8ea1.jpg)  
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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/456 "2014-10-12T15:26:17Z")

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Hereby a drawing with the main dimensions from the RET Gasifier.  
For those who want to start building one…

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/f/f5bab130e257df376101c0552de15447661a2bcb.jpg)

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### Author: ![Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/carl/32/11373_2.png) [@Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Carl)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2014, 2:16am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/457 "2014-10-13T02:16:43Z")

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That looks very doable. Is the cross section area of the nozzle a critical factor to hp. I plan on using the 8hp 5kw gen set I currently have.

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### Author: ![BillSchiller](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/billschiller/32/119_2.png) [@BillSchiller](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/BillSchiller)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2014, 5:30am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/458 "2014-10-13T05:30:58Z")

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Koen,  
Al D. had a simple fire set up in Arkansas at the meet up. We sprayed water in the ignition port with a spray bottle with a fine mist and a direct stream. We were unable to notice any increase in gas. Do you have any idea as to what we were missing?

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2014, 5:38am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/459 "2014-10-13T05:38:13Z")

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Yes, the size of the nozzle is a critical factor.  
If you can give me some detail about your engine displacement and RPM, i can give you a pre- calculated size for starters.  
Are you running it with standard carb or something modified ?

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2014, 5:48am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/460 "2014-10-13T05:48:04Z")

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There are a few possibility’s:  
-Running already on the “rich side” and at a “choked” level from carburator restriction  
( once my gas was so rich it needed the gas tube disconnected to give it more air )  
-Your air intake valve might be on the small size, so not enough air to increase the RPM

- The engine was already running at high rpm ?
- The temperature in the reactor was to low to convert it into H2 ?

i will work on a explanatory how i see things and why i do them the way i do… ( knowledge for the advanced ? )  
It might be helpful for those who want to know…

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