# Gilmore style?

**URL:** http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899
**Category:** Charcoal Gasification
**Created:** [August 8, 2013, 11:37am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899 "2013-08-08T11:37:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 1:26am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/461 "2014-10-14T01:26:31Z")

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I’m not Carl but what size nozzle would you use for a 458 cc engine running at 2800 rpm with a standard carb?

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### Author: ![Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/carl/32/11373_2.png) [@Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Carl)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 3:06am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/462 "2014-10-14T03:06:00Z")

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It is about 300cc and runs at 3600 on a 5kw gen set. It has served my well over the years as we get lots of power outages, 5 days being the longest. Thanks for the help.

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/9/9b823be381002e2deaa9e0756b735663f229b230.JPG)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 11:15am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/463 "2014-10-14T11:15:00Z")

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working on 4 projects same time… actually the rectangle at the left is a raw wood… going to build a 2 stage raw wood - charcoal gasifier with the rectangle and the second from the right, fire tube with inner stainless coil  
the stranger at the far right side and single picture is a long overdue test…  
outer cylinder holds the charcoal gasifier, producing gas and heat…  
the inner tube is holding waste plastic or waste oils  
the gas from the inner tube can be used directly or be routed trough the charcoal bed

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/9/9c377016e47c7234e392127eea60156e1b83cb8d.JPG)  
 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/d/d0b09e91fcacf79f65cb339e0bc91e76e2cf4011.JPG)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 11:34am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/464 "2014-10-14T11:34:50Z")

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Both of you can work in the range from 8 - 10 and 12 mm nozzles ( use the biggest nozzle for full load but start with the smallest )  
Since it looks both working with standard carbs and not able to pull the total volume ( volume efficiency) plus the carb will almost never go - stay at full throttle…  
second benefit is : if temperature apears to be “to hot” then the egr can reduce better ( starving the oxygen ) or the water drip becomes more effectivefor producing H2 and tempering the nozzle…

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/465 "2014-10-14T14:55:58Z")

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of the above gasifier in the picture

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/f/f756725cb8bc7f61b012d298d6ef9ad81ad17388.jpg)

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### Author: ![Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/carl/32/11373_2.png) [@Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Carl)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/466 "2014-10-14T16:10:18Z")

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I’m planing to take the carb off and mount it on a “T” to make it a dual fuel system.

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2014, 8:49am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/467 "2014-10-18T08:49:53Z")

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About the nozzle size and more…  
I keep my nozzle speed at idle \>25M/sec  
The water-steam keeps the klinker soft.  
Also the temperature can be held in check with either EGR or water drip  
I use any possible heat loss to pre heat whatever i want to get into the reactor…  
The vertical nozzle pointing to the feedstock and the gas output at the top section of the gasifier, retaining the heat in the feedstock  
temperature exit gas +/- 40°C

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/0/0b3e8a7ccaeb2dd5675379af3228b77b0711493b.jpg)  
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 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/9/98702ceae8648ee8fea4b61f57bdaaa94e213084.jpg)  
 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/4/43523af685d034de9606b3e2f6651b28d6af725b.jpg)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2014, 11:31am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/468 "2014-10-19T11:31:42Z")

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they build the second trike by them selves…  
still a few problems to solve, but looking great  
they did hide the filters under the chassis and made the gasifier small sized, but lets give it a go…  
green is beautiful…

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/9/91a17369bb8c92df6cfa64d8c4f44f8e639829e3.jpg)  
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 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/2/2856959c582d89970ac6aabce5b81571e0e284af.jpg)  
 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/a/ac75885a4a6bc52bbe015f4ba275833112c8ab5c.jpg)

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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/469 "2014-10-19T12:06:51Z")

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Look good Koen, Hardly know it is there. How long will it run between fuel fills?

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/470 "2014-10-19T12:52:31Z")

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The tank is really “small”, about 6 liters  
My guess they can drive about 20 miles before to refill, but test will show…  
I just got this one today, have to make it run…  
They had it started, but experienced some beginners issue’s…

Anyhow, i have to prepare 6 different setups for the “provincial” innovation exhibit , by the 15Th next month  
The trike, the 2,5 kw gen set, the small baby cooker, the small 12 v gen set with battery and converter, one set with water pump, and the plastic waste to energy set…  
The 12V set, i want to install that on a small “golfcart” driven by battery and dc motor, charging the battery with the small GX35-gasifier set

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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/471 "2014-10-19T15:19:51Z")

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Sounds like you are having too much fun!

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### Author: ![TomC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/tomc/32/11384_2.png) [@TomC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/TomC)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/472 "2014-10-19T15:21:19Z")

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They did an excellent job of rehabbing the tricycle. And the gasifier------They had an excellent teacher. What does that use for a differential?TomC  
PS. In the beginning, I didn’t understand what you were trying to do or where you were going with it. Now that I am seeing your results, I have to say, “I have the highest respect for you and your work”.

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2014, 7:30am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/473 "2014-10-20T07:30:49Z")

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Yes Don, fun without limits…  
Tom, no diff on those trikes, just one wheel driven by the engine… Thanks for the compliments

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2014, 7:31am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/474 "2014-10-22T07:31:13Z")

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I made a calculation spreadsheet for the nozzles  
Hereby your printouts as picture.  
If you want i can pm you the spreadsheet to play with

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/1/17fd812d6e864d110872d5dd637b5ac6787effbb.jpg)  
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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2014, 7:41am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/475 "2014-10-22T07:41:47Z")

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Here the power calculations, spreadsheet also available

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/e/ebad90d878c1cd5ad3f23bac29afb8ab456564af.jpg)  
 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/9/94292a689d4e74e3b68d25c7557d13e0da219b21.jpg)

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### Author: ![don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/don_mannes/32/19008_2.png) [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2014, 11:43am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/476 "2014-10-22T11:43:32Z")

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Thanks Koen, I think I understand most of it. Is your comma (,) the same as a decimal (.)?

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2014, 12:01pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/477 "2014-10-22T12:01:13Z")

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Yes it is

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### Author: ![Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/carl/32/11373_2.png) [@Carl](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Carl)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2014, 2:38am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/478 "2014-10-23T02:38:42Z")

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Thank you for the extra work. I hope to construct this this winter.

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2014, 10:44am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/479 "2014-10-27T10:44:00Z")

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Using the gasifier to produce electric power, with or without converter, diagram as example

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/d/d8249376288b68147d7c716c3067e50aa757a844.jpg)

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### Author: ![k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/user_avatar/forum.driveonwood.com/k_vanlooken/32/24334_2.png) [@k\_vanlooken](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/k_vanlooken)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2014, 11:33am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/gilmore-style/899/480 "2014-10-27T11:33:49Z")

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Another great idea from research department Nong khai Technical…  
The Gasifier with the small 12 v generator,installed on a small electrical car… solar power and charcoal power …  
Thumbs up Nong Khai Technical…  
The next generation is learning how to…

 ![](https://dow.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/2X/8/8c17602d51fe76efbb6e2a87da1ce3b0d8ca40d7.jpg)  
  
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