# Charcoal Documentary
**URL:** http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284
**Category:** Charcoal Gasification
**Created:** [February 16, 2016, 1:35am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284 "2016-02-16T01:35:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Wallace](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Wallace)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 2:45am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/21 "2016-02-18T02:45:46Z")
I don’t have an account there.
Could you please post some pictures Bruce?
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 4:22am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/22 "2016-02-18T04:22:45Z")
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 4:23am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/23 "2016-02-18T04:23:29Z")
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 4:23am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/24 "2016-02-18T04:23:59Z")
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 4:24am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/25 "2016-02-18T04:24:32Z")
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### Author:  [@BrianHWA](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/BrianHWA)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 8:51am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/26 "2016-02-18T08:51:46Z")
I saw a vertically orientated version of that which looked pretty impressive.
James Hookway retort
[https://youtu.be/fBYaP5K0AkE](https://youtu.be/fBYaP5K0AkE) (part 1 of 2)
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### Author:  [@Handy\_Andy](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/Handy_Andy)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/27 "2016-02-18T12:12:52Z")
I’m not understanding the part on top that looks like a half barrel. What’s it do?
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/28 "2016-02-18T12:59:37Z")
The half barrell is an afterburner to clean up smoke and provide heat for drying feed stock.
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/29 "2016-02-18T14:31:43Z")
James’ and my retorts are based on the Anila stove designed by Professor RV Ravikumar of India. James cleverly combined the rocket stove and anila stove. Insulation is the key. I have, since the picture, added insulation under the barrel as well. I built many variations until settling with this. My horizontal design is easier to empty and the flue along the bottom gives a longer heat exchange area. Several gas entry holes are along each side of the bottom of the internal flue. The external finned air inlet, which I call a turbinator, swirls the primary air and significantly increases efficiency by enhancing the the third T of combustion: Time, Temperature and Turbulence. The glowing circle in the center of the turbinator is a sight glass. The startup time can be reduced to 20 minutes by directing a hair dryer or other blower Into the fire. This slight positive pressure from the blower also helps drive off moisture through the steam vent. When the venting gases sustain combustion, close the vent, install turbinator and let her rip (there is an audible roar). Pyrolysis continues for another 1 hour 45 minutes. Seal by replacing the turbinator with a duct plug, close the chimney damper and let cool.
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/30 "2016-02-18T14:47:02Z")
If built as a barrel in a barrel, ashes can be used as the insulation. The flue for this one is SS chimney liner and was free. Picked up as scrap leftover from a local stove shop.
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### Author:  [@trigaux](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/trigaux)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:00am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/31 "2016-02-20T06:00:54Z")
Hi bruce
your stove pyrolysis I really like.
You’ve probably worked very hard to develop.
The Turbinator looks like a propeller to provide a rotational movement has primary air?
Thierry
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### Author:  [@trigaux](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/trigaux)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:13am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/32 "2016-02-20T06:13:19Z")
Why install a vent?
Water vapor could exit through the holes from the pipe of stove.
Thierry
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### Author:  [@bsoutherland](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/bsoutherland)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/33 "2016-02-20T14:09:09Z")
Yes, Thierry it will work without the vent, but not as efficiently. It takes much less energy to let moisture rise up through and away from the feed stock than to heat it enough to force it downward through the feed stock. Every bit of moisture released is that much less that is robbing BTUs from the startup fire. At 20% moisture that is a lot of water. If all of that water is passing down through the wood right around the firetube/flue it takes longer and more fuel to heat it up enough to give off burnable pyrolysis gases to self-sustain the internal fire. (BTW, the fire is not hot enough to crack water/steam. Even our gasifiers are not hot enough to “crack” water. Actually oxygen is being ripped off of H2O by the hungry glowing carbon to release hydrogen.)
Yes the fins in the turbinator swirl the incoming primary air. The fins are formed by making Square C-shaped cuts in a flue cap, then bending inward at 45 degrees. The sight glass is not needed but it allows a clear view of the swirl. Again, the turbinator is not necessary, but here is a marked difference in the intensity of the fire with this addition. The turbinator doesn’t have to be incorporated into the retort. The effect can be accomplished more simply by using a 8" to 6" reducer added on to the flue outside of the retort. By increasing to 8", the opening area of the fins allows greater airflow. A 6" turbinator on a 6" pipe would restrict the primary air so much as to decrease burn efficiency.
For those using a Hookway retort, using a blower for start up then sticking a turbinator on the inlet once pyrolysis gases start burning will drastically improve performance.
Bruce
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### Author:  [@trigaux](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/trigaux)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/34 "2016-02-20T15:46:53Z")
I have myself built some coal stoves. They do not work well. Your explanation helps me understand that it does not work in my stoves
Or if you see any problems, i would like
inspire me with your constructions for my next stove
Thank you for your valuable information
Thierry
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### Author:  [@abnervalbuena](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/abnervalbuena)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/35 "2016-02-20T17:47:07Z")
Ok folks. I tried to up load the videos of my reactor fpor biochar. But I couldn´t its in MP4 its too heavy to up load. Does anyone know how to convert MP4 to some other to upload my video? Thanks
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### Author:  [@don\_mannes](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/don_mannes)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/36 "2016-02-20T18:34:25Z")
We’re you trying to upload to this site or to you tube? This site will upload photos but to upload videos, you need to upload to you tube which is what most of us use and then copy and past the link to your post here. Looking forward to see how you make it.
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### Author:  [@kyle](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/kyle)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/37 "2016-02-20T18:39:00Z")
Great video.
That “white charcoal” is really amazing.
Rings like a bell.
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### Author:  [@abnervalbuena](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/abnervalbuena)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 2:25am UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/38 "2016-02-21T02:25:47Z")
OK Don, I´ll do it that way and I´ll let you all know. Thanks for the information.
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### Author:  [@abnervalbuena](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/abnervalbuena)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/39 "2016-02-21T16:22:58Z")
OK folks I made a mistake and I uploaded the information of my system in
## “Gary Gilmore, My start to building a charcoal gasifier”.
Sorry, I goofed. You´ll have to go there to see it. I dont know yet how t move it here. Sorry folks
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### Author:  [@BrianHWA](http://forum.driveonwood.com/u/BrianHWA)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](http://forum.driveonwood.com/t/charcoal-documentary/2284/40 "2016-02-21T16:47:44Z")
I believe the only way to move posts are: A. Copy all the info from that post, paste it to a new post here, and delete the old post; or B. Ask @Chris nicely and he can move things when he gets a moment.
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