Blowers used for the gasifiers

Hi Kevin,

I will see on what i can find to post here.

Hi Kevin, our new blower systems you will never have to clean. The gas never touches them they only push air. In lighting mode they run an injector to pull vacuum, once its lit we push directly through the gasifier for warm up. The machine light up very fast, and pushing through vs pulling is much more effective and requires only a third the power of pulling. So durability is no longer any factor nor is cleaning maintenance,

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Ok thanks matt on the push VS pull, allthough that wont work with wk as we need forward and reverse for we know why.

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Ok thanks Koen,are you thinking push or pull smog pump would work best.and thanks on the comparison to some of the other fans.

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Matt is using Bernoulli effect, like a carburetor, atomizer, or paint gun to pull (a vacuum) air through, like using a water jet to pull (push?) additional water through a larger pipe. :rocket:

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I never knew i was always wrong with using venturi effect … :grin:

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I still dont get the difference :grin:

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Hi Matt, I like your idea and use of the pusher blower. Any videos?

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Nice. Thanks for the video Matt. I looked it up on youtube to watch later.

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I think someone asked about the suction power of smog pumps. I have one off of who knows what vehicle that needs about 40 amps so I have a 60 amp pwm for it. I just now powered it directly to a 12v battery and it pulled enough to peg my 40 inches water column gauge. The needle was slowing down as it passed 40 then gently pegged at what would be about 42 inches. I also like the 18 volt makita blowers that have plenty of power running on 12v with pwm. The makita needs maybe 8 amps.

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Hi Bruce. I see and understand the Mikita blower but the smog pump completely baffles me. I thought smog pumps were about 5" in diameter and 5" long and had a pulley that ran off the engine. They pumped air through about 1/4" tubing into each individual cylinder. The thing you are showing has its own motor and it looks like 3/4 to 1" ports. ??? TomC

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Tom,
Google search smog pump images and you will see the kind of pump you have in mind. Google search electric smog pump images and you will see my kind of pump.

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Hi TomC
The designs trends after the mid-1990’s was to step by step have everything computor-controllable-by-wire.
Yes. Air-Injection-Reaction pumps got their own electric motors.
Now pulse width controled electric fuel pumps. Electric motor driven power steering pumps; or, direct PM motor no-hydraulic power streering.
Newest trending is toward variable controllable electric motor driven oil pumps and water(coolant) pumps.
S.U.

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Hi Bruce,

I have seen 2 kinds of smog pumps so far, 1 the turbine type with a normal impeller, and 2 the ring blower type, ( i think that is the prefered from Matt )

For suction you need to ensure that the blower is “gas tight”
The makita isn’t. it takes secondary air thru its motor compartiment for cooling

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This Makita has a vacuum attachment and pulls 9 inches of water column on 12v. When used for suction there is a slight positive air flow at the motor vents and they do not affect the vacuum.

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Hi Bruce,

as long the motor compartment is sealed from the “blower” side it might be safe. But if air mixed with gas come near the brushes from the DC motor… you might have a early flare up :grin: ( been there, done that )

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Thanks for the replys on smog pumps koen and bruce southerland . that gave me a new outlook of smog pumps. What size gasifier did the pump peg the gauge on bruce S.

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Kevin,
The smog pump is not on a gasifier. This is the a direct hookup bench test.

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Ok thanks for the update on the testing bruce. This questain is a little off coarse but is there a pump size too the least amp draw for a plasma cutter, my plasma cutter as most others dont have on board or built in air pump,looking for some guild lines too build from, or salvage pumps that would be simular too the plasma cutters with on board air supply ? .Thanks too anyone with spec.,s on pump types for those onboard pumps.

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