And isn’t the Amazon also on fire?
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Unfortunately I think Antarctica is the continent not suffering from forest fires.
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I did not know that but. TV lenses will start fires; sometimes if positioned properly according to the sun it can happen in seconds.
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Hi All, I have a new (old) found aquired book with many 1940’s woodgas tractors in it.
“1000 Traktoren” by the German publisher NGV. Ha! All in German langue of course. I make-do with my 2 year high school German just o.k. reading.
Five different German manufactured machines with Mostly all INBERT factory conversions.
And 2-3-4 French, Swiss and other systems conversions.
This book in set up into five time era agricultural tractor-power sections:
1917-1933
1933-1945
1945-1960
1960-1975
1975 bis heute
The long intro chapter covers Germany, French, English, USA, Canadian pre-1917 agricultural wood and coal power systems. With peat-sod used some too, I’ll bet. Fire! Fire! And Fire! Many men needed for the different steps in the power making steam systems.
Benzine/gasoline/petrol; farm-alcohol, and kerosene-diesel were seen as the much better solutions. TVF (tractor vaporizing fuels are not mentioned at all. Probably only a USA&Canadian thing.
Outta’ time today.
I’ll list the actual woodgas tractors another day.
S.U.
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Just some pics of old wooden wagons and stuff that people use for decoration around here. Wood just doesn’t rot. It’s too dry. Read fire danger.
Rindert
A little hard to see but there is a complete wagon burried in there.
This is outside an antique store.
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Hi All, The woodgased agricutural trators in this German NGV book are all in the 1933-1945 Von Bauern-, Einheits-, und Holtzgasschlepern section. All drop out of new issue in the follow up 1945-1960 Der Traktor setzt sich durch, section.
Lannz-Bulldog D 9006,
Reingas-Acherluft-Bulldog: PS/kW of 55/40.3; 2415 made from 1936-1954. 100% factory Imbert.
Hanomag R 40 Holzgas: PS/kW 40/29.3; manufactured 1942-1945, unknown how many made. Two pictured. One 100% factory Imbert. The other distinctly not.
Fahr Generatorschlepper HG 25: PS/kW 25/18.3; unknown how many made from 1942-1948. Distinctly NOT an Imbert system. Woodgas round/tall side hopper with a vent valve stand in it’s lid.
Fendt Dieselross G 25 Holtzgasschlepper: PS/kW 25/18.3; manufactured 1942-1946; 1497 made.
Gasifier stem locks exatly the same as the Fahr above. This side picture shows a hand cranked geared ~200 mm o.d. cast housings draft starting up hand cracked blower.
Normag NG 25 Generatorschlepper: PS/kW 25/18.3; calculated 2000 made 1942-1945. Defiantly NOT an Imbert system. Looks very like the system used on the Fahr and the Fendt farm-welder adapted in.
Schuluter-Starke DMZ 25; PS/kW 25/18.3; 1043 made from 1937-1942. Defiantly an IMBERT front mounted generator. The rest of the system not seen from the single picture.
All other listed previous to this one had the round woodgas generator “tank” side mounted like Ron Lemlers.
Hurlimann (Swiss) 4 KT 40 C; PS/kW 40/29.3; made betwenn 1934-1936. Listed as usinf an IMBERT patent system.
Gruder TK 25 Genratorschlepper: PS/kW 20/14.6; definatly a fron mounted IMBERT woodgas gnerator. Nice picture shows the hung on side hooper hearth poker tool and the L ended above grate scraper, and lower ash bin scraper tool.
Gruder list as using various Chevrolet, Fiat, Opel, Peugot and Renalt engine.
Gruder along with just maybe tow other in this time period had one low, low sleek stramlined obvious hot-rod tractor.
Later other in the 1945-1965 periods went go-fast sexly looking on at least one tracor model.
My eye says with the Allgaier and porche tracors as the most sllek looking.
Ha! I am really a pretty-do kinnda guy. Known for taking off get-in-the way sexifiers covers. Never putting them back on.
this book far above shows that practical use wheeled farm tractors really were following the available fuels evolution most of all. Then better rubber tires. Always better usability. For a time reliability and serviceability.
Regards
Steve unruh
The PS is a German tax-restriction number. Not actual power.
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Just bumping this topic. Microsoft is investing in carbon capture technology. Bill gates owns a lot of farmland now and is interested in reducing agriculture’s carbon footprint. Warren buffet’s son owns farmland and is into computerized methods of making farming more efficient. Carbon negative combine harvester anyone?
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Probably not with gasification because of the risk of fire. If you start a fire in a field, you could die. Not worth it.
Biofuels are the best bet right now. Gen 2 biofuels are a drop in replacement for diesel. It is actually available and on the market.
As far as reducing the carbon footprint, there is lower hanging and fruit which will do a lot more. Minimum till/no-till with cover crops (even intercropped) would actually reduce the carbon footprint more. No-till is the worst because of it’s heavy reliance on chemicals.
No one can figure out how to reroute money to farmers for the extra work.
The intercropping has a chance because it shifts the input costs from fertilizers and pesticides to plants. It is just isn’t well tested.
All those techniques will build up carbon in the soil, healthier microbial life and promote higher yields, and such. Which will have a much larger impact then a harvester.
If some of the battery tech improves, then I could see an electric combine, but that isn’t here yet.
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Why do you keep pitching this idea to a bunch of hobbyist tinkerers? Nobody on here has the time, resources, or inclination to prove to you that your idea is not grounded in reality. If you really want to change the world, then go grab a welder get to work. Happy Earth Day, by the way.
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Maybe you should call up bill gates or one of those money fellows and pitch your idea to them. They might be just crazy enough to bite.
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Charles
Most farmers that I know round here have been looking at these problems for years and are NOT dumb. If there was a better harvester it would be in the field. Cover crops were started planting before harvest was fully done. Gates and Buffet offspring don’t count for nothing unless they are doing themselves cut them off from the money and make them do it . You rattled my cage. Kinda like buying my wife new jeans then bitchin cause they make her butt look big. You gave’em to me deal with it.
Harvest is a dirty very dusty time and very dangerous as far fire, crushing, transportation and another 1000 ways ways to die are considered.
Don’t care what the celeb’s are doing just what the do’ers are doing kinda like the DOW.
Farmers round here have college degrees and 100’s of hrs in environment education all the dumb farmers died decades ago so trash that notion.
End of Rant
TomW
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“Oh cellulose can fuel a pickup ok with a gassifier I made out of scrap and not a chance in hell I’m tooling around starting fires in my wake. But hold on sonny about scaling that up and doing something productive with it. That’s as crazy as flying a helicopter on mars.”
I can own farmland doesn’t mean I know how to manage it well.
Please show me your plans for this device with dust explosion prevention precautions. Someday we may get there but not yet imo.
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If it is so easy, then by all means, show us how it’s done. Go grab yourself a half million dollar combine, “scale up” a little cellulose gasifier, make an incredibly complex machine even more complex so it produces all its fuel as it drives along, and then publish a peer-reviewed article about how much carbon you are actually putting back in the soil. Should get you on the cover of Time magazine, I would think. You might want to clear your schedule, though. And while you are at, why dont you try and single-handedly build and test a helicopter that can fly on Mars. I mean, do you think this is a forum where all the guys from JPL hang out after work? Do you think because a team of crack engineers can do something, that a bunch of hobbyists who build things out of scrapped barrels can do it too?
And its pretty rich that you ride in here on your high horse, and complain that we are not “doing something productive.” By all means, inspire us with tales of your carbon-sequestering accomplishments.
I hope that you are not actually just a well-meaning child, in which case, sorry for demolishing your innocence. The world is incredibly complex, kid, and while it is important to dare mighty things, dont confuse inaction with apathy. Some problems are too big to solve on your own. Also, this planet is probably F*#KED, so get out and enjoy it while you can.
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This was invented a long time ago and works. It requires the use of horses. Have we made any progress?
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YES a LOT of progress. I heard hand harvesting was the new ‘in’ thing. You get all the people that go walking for exercise, walking down rows of corn and picking it. some of the people that used to pay to use treadmills and weights at the gym have all abandon their gym memberships and pay farmers to harvest corn. People are even sitting around the tv and shelling corn at night.
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