Gander Mountain is going out of business here and muzzle loading stuff is 30 % off. I bought 2 100 count boxes of 50 caliber musket balls for $22+. The shipping alone on some of the sites start at $16 up to $21. I made out. I tried diff. mix of charcoal and balls until I got here. Going to stick with these as you'll see, they work just right.