Cheap Gas Prices

Tanking the market liquid and gasious DinoFuels is an Old, Old game. Back to good ol’ J.D. Rockerfeller. Price bottom it. Flood the market. Get the market ,driving out competitors. Then Jack-off the Market. They are just dependent/comsumers.
The “Seven Sisters” Majors in the 50’s - early 70’s. OPEC member states since.
Just so o-o-o damn easy to lead the shepple around by their pocketbooks. Individuals. Countries. Cultures.

Since I have no accessible usable personal hydro, wind or solar BUT can grow trees why I am so wood-for-power insist.
One of my walk by neighbors an avid bad-hair Presidential candidate supporter pulled out his woodstove chimney this last summer.
Wind storm power out twice now this cold season I’ve had woodheat, hotwater: and could of had wood for-lights/refrigeration/DVD/TV anytime I’d wanted/needed.
The bad-hair candidate advocating neighbor; the dated pants-suit candidate advocating Leaf driving neighbor; and the pulpit thumping screeching revolution candidate advocating Prius driving neighbors were all in the cold and dark for over 24 hours.
TopDown dependencies suck no matter who the shreeking, screaching, throw-out the baby-with-the-baby-water TopEnder is doing the Top Downing.

I’d guess you fellows with the high Dino use prices are subsidizing a lot of social progressiveness. That takes a lot of well paid bureaucrats. We in the US with the lowest retail Dino prices can’t say much. Takes a heck of a lot sacrificing to support a military reaching enough to ensure the OPEC majors the ‘freedom’ to 2X, 3X jack us around too.

My own trees still been growing thru all of this last 65 years of up and down jerk-you off TopDown energy pricing/supplying.

This is all why I very unpopularly say here on the DOW that only those doing wood-for-power because they insist on the personal freedom of it are the only ones who will stick with it.
Once you put a price on it you can be bought out.

Just On The Way To Better
Steve Unruh

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I think you’ll have to be a bit more specific there… They all have bad hair by one standard or another. :stuck_out_tongue:
From the limited context, I gather you’re referring to the wild-haired one from Vermont?

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Here in Kansas they blame tracking for earthquakes, its hard to believe a well could cause an earthquake along a 700 or 1000 mile long fault, in Kansas we pay around 30 cents per gal tax, 50 cents more in Colo. Govt makes the money.

Fracing is not like a normal well: they are literally making hundreds and thousands of smaller fault lines which can trigger bigger faults.

It’s like taking a cutting torch to a few key structural beams on a bridge. Sure, it only makes a single small “break”, but that makes other beams take extra and off-balance stresses.

Soon the whole bridge comes down, maybe not right away, but maybe the next time a dump truck goes across it.

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I for one don’t care how cheap gasoline is ,even if it’s below a dollar a gallon, I’m still going to keep working on building my system. The personal freedom it offers is priceless.

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Fracturing started near bus ton is in mid 1940s it was vertical now horizontal.

America reached cheap-peak-oil some years ago. The junk-bond market was used (and abused) to finance fracking of expensive oil. This is rapidly coming to an end. The expensive-oil producers are going bankrupt.
“IHS, the consulting firm that held the energy gathering in Houston last
week, is forecasting that U.S. oil output could fall from more than 9
million barrels a day to as little as 8.3 million barrels a day by this
summer.”

You can bet that when U.S. domestic oil production is cut , prices will go up. Canadian oil has a similar problem. The oil glut will be worked out as producers go bankrupt. As worldwide oil consumption drops, only the low-cost producers will survive. Even Mexican oil is expensive and the State run oil company, PEMEX, has just lost $ 32 billion.
The price of oil will go back up. The price of trees will remain constant.

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Gasoline is always an unknown. I never remember feeling anxiety over anything growing up until our Gas Stations posted “No Gas” on cardboard signs in the 1970’s. Long lines, waiting for hours to buy 10 gallons only was the norm.

I feel I will never get over this. People don’t realize how fragile things are if they haven’t lived through periods lIke this. Gas prices were completely out of control again in 2007 when I was stationed in South Carolina for the RR. Nearly 4 dollars a gallon. Almost as bad as not having any gas at all when you can’t afford to buy it.

I was reminded again and felt compelled to figure out another way. I proved to myself that hydrogen generators were a waste of time, at least for the lack of performance enhancement I was looking for. I ran on to the Engineer775 and Mr. Teslonian videos, very crude, but interesting. From there, I found my first Wayne Keith/ Mother Earth video and the rest is history.

I can always make wood for the truck regardless of petroleum supply or price. If necessary power for my house. Makes me smile with just the thought of you all doing this every day and knowing that I will be joining you soon.

Bryan

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I do not think there will ever be a natural end to petroleum.
It might be regulated into oblivion, but I doubt we ill run out naturally or see it priced so high no one buys it.

I do see the possibilities of short term scarcity of refined products.
Storms fires accidents ( Zombies… joke ) political induced troubles yes.

The world will be better off when our consumption of fossil fuels for begins to decline because of cleaner technology and smarter ways to get around.

I sure would like to come up with some sort of hybrid electric wood gas system.

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Cancel this post wallace,allready been too koens thread on hybrids

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I dont know maybe, maybe not. But I do not believe that we can not switch to ethanol and biodiesel fuels for one bit. The technologies and infrastructure are here for both fuels, It would take a weaning off potrolium while this industry is developed and set up but I believe it could be done in a short order of a decade or so. If cars were made run ethanol only they would get more comparable fuel mileage to current gasoline versions. The reason flex cars don’t do so well is because they don’t have the proper compression ratio and cam overlap timing. Other petroleum products can be made in synthetic forms now. Yes it does go way beyond energy concerning petroleum there are tons of other products that are effected and that is root of why we are not making these transitions. Not because we cant grow the crops and many other excuses I here of why we can not. But I can tell you our very technology that we are all working on here is capable of making high octane gasolines there are multiple large scale plants already doing this, but there funding has ran out.

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That also already exist and is going to continue to gain momentum. The electric cars are here and getting better all the time. Eventually I hope to build a model specific for fast charging a car.

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They been talking about them supper cap fast charger cars for 50 years give or take 20 years , they should be done with the prototype soon.Or at least by the time they melt down a few more hundred nuclier reactors,that need shutting down 20 years ago.

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Actually quite few companies will be coming on line in the next year with them. Tesla is one, and a few others as well. We are getting a beta unit later this year the size of a package of printer paper that can output 2000 amp hours.These are all graphene based batteries, graphene is very new and is what is changing the game in many new technologies. The main issue was mass producing this material but there now many companies with mass producing capabilities now.

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Thats good too here, if they dont hit any snags,like back in the 90’s when they they recalled the electric cars,and melted them back down.have you heard about rubio going from 5% up too 25% after microsolft his main sponsor counted the volts.

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Hi Matt keep us posted on the graphene batterys thats new too me, i had not heard of them batterys,or how they are made.

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