Forum Rules / Terms of Service

Hi Brent,

Anything you contribute is fine, you’re free to add as much info to the discussion as you like! Freely given is freely shared.

We mostly don’t want folks posting info and pics about Keith gasifier internals on the public side of the fence. And yes we’ll let you know if something’s out of line, not to hurt your feelings but just to be clear as to why you got moderated.

Hi Chris, I have read and totally agree with them. We’re all here to teach/learn gasification and to say hello.
Thank you, Pepe

Hi Chris!
I like the terms. Would be specific in the following areas. Be specific about risk: "Risk of explosion, burn, injury, death (particularly r/t carbon monoxide), or injury self and to others. Compliance with any Country, Federal and State laws…etc.

While one might assume that someone on this board understands the apparent risks, it would be easy for Plaintiff’s attorney to argue that they did not.

Chris,

Just want to give my thanks and appreciation for all you have done to make this website all that it is. It has become the new center of my free-time life! You all are the most helpful, friendly yet frank and straightforward, bunch of folks I would ever want to be associated with and to learn from. One day I hope to join those of you who have actually driven on wood. My need is to have one that will drive well over two mountain passes, in the snow in winter and over washboard in the summer…to visit my son’s remote ranch here in Eastern Washington. It now costs me ~$25 in fuel every time I go, which is often!

Jim

Good Red Sky Morning to All.
(really actually was red here)
I wanted to bump this topic back up for reflection and clarification.
C-o-l-d frozen in for most now, and slow outside so a good time to review this before getting out, about, and busy times come again.

No real problems with terms vilolations that I’ve seen.
A few new folk wanting to modify/develope the WK systems downsized having to be switched from the open broadcast side to a set-up dedicated Premium side Project thread of thier own. Thanks WayneK.
Couple of instances of having to point out the difference between aggressive “debating” style posting that is clearly in two places in the Terms of Service resticted in favor of a kinder, gentler, more respectful “discussion” style of posting.
Read AdminChris’s post above specifically using that term, and intent for the DOW to be a “discussion” format.
All just minor bumps in the road to sharing.

I’ll let Admin ChrisKY address other rough points such as real name and general location requirements he’s had to handle.
Any de-political; de-religious; de-rabble rousing he’s had to dampen down.
His de-spaming work in new members pre-screening and approving has helped a lot. Thanks Chris.

Again this slowed down cold time is a good time to reread and reflect for yourself the Terms of Service and judge for yourself, “How am I doing?”

Regards; Small Engine Users Corner host
Steve Unruh

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Morning Steve,

Far as I can see everyone is doing a wonderful job. Like you say there are always “bumps” on the way. But as forums go this is a very peaceful and productive one.

We do have a strict real names policy, as you can see by perusing the members list. There are several reasons for this, first and foremost that this is a real community and we want to get to know each other. There’s no hiding behind cryptic handles here. If it’s your own name on the post, you’ll think harder before you sound off. Another benefit is, it makes spammers very easy to spot. And you see virtually no spam here!

Locations are different, not required or strict. We like to know where you are in general, but please nobody post your home address. City and state is fine, even just a state or region. Saying “United States” is not very helpful, but remains acceptable. If someone wants to find other woodgassers near them, it’s nice to have at least some location info. Eventually I’d like to get a map together, one that accounts for all the vague locations.

Hi Chris;
Don’t remember getting email but do agree to terms. Danny Cox

Danny, you joined about 5 months after that email went out.

Anyone who joins has to check the box saying “I have read and agree to the terms of service”. I’m sure everyone reads it carefully… :slight_smile:

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Good morning to All,
Time to bump this one back up, and visible, again.
We have many new members now with the recent jacking up of fuel prices.

Yes. There are Rules to DOW participation.
There are expected Responsibilities in the Terms of Service too.
This was determined the only way to promote and retain civility among diverse thinkers.

Do read the first posts blue highlighted link Administrator ChrisS had put up.
Used to be you had to Read and Click agreement before you could open forum post up.
How/why that drifted away . . .
I think the change from Drupal to Django format.

A lot of you new guys are coming on faceless behind cutsie Anonymous screen names.
Read the Terms of Service carefully.
If you chose full Anonymity you can still read along. You just do not get to paddle the boat.

I am Steve Unruh
Yacolt WA USA

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I agree too terms of service/ good common sence/ Do not post details about the build design of another persons gasifier designs, The wayne Keith gasifier,as menchened, in terms of service.

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Here you go fellows.
A new day. A new irritation from Steve Unruh.
Only 27 reads of the highlighted Forum Rules / Terms of Service.
That means a few hundreds of new guys ignoring, or oblivious; still.

Go to the bottom of the DOW very friendly Home page. Left hand lower corner.
This site was established and set up by a partner ship of Chris Saenz and Wayne Keith.
In 2012 just months into it’s inception Chris Seanz, one of the origination partners, developed theses Rules and Responsibilities.
I was not at all involved. Personally knowing him previously on other forums I know he had learned the difficulties of free-for-all (also an American colloquialism for riot fighting) laissez-faire social forums.
The proof of his Rules and Responsibility wisdoms is 10 year later and the DOW is still standing; communication and exchanging. Weathering all of the slings and arrows, and bumps in the roads.

Now the other DOW originator-developer-owner Wayne Keith has expressed a personal need to see peoples faces. Helps him remember us as unique individuals, he has said.


Sigh. This is for you WayneK. My real me, of now, today.
Damn. How did I ever get so old?
And after the 100 days of nearest city to me Portland OR streets rioting anarchists, Anonymous, and ANTIFA hoodlums insistent using destructions for rapid social revolutions, I am very, very cranky now.
You will get nothing from me here, any hiding behind your masks.
The DOW is a different place by intent. A successfully, different place.
Regards
Steve Unruh

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Forgive the acne scars, taped up glasses, dirty hat, neckbeard, cartoon villain eyebrows, and the rest of my ugly mug while you’re at it.

It’s so hot in the South it’ll make at least half of your face melt and droop.

No I’m not arching one eyebrow I just have Resting Jerk Face.

Not afraid to show it, just trying to protect y’all’s vision.

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Damn. How did I ever get so old?

Hello Mr. Steve .

I think I have you beat in one category of being older and uglier :blush:

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Bump. Still a lot of new members not having read this yet.
How to know.
They are still not registering required full names.
Steve Unruh

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I just sayd to Tone the other day, the thing l like most about this site is everyone is (shuld be) signed in with his own name. You put your personal reputation on the table that way, and its a part why this forum is so civilised.

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I agree completely. When someone is anonymous they are emboldened to say whatever rude things they want. When their full name is on display much like when you’re out and about in real life you have to think about what you say. I had my name on here since the start because I’ve never had anything to hide, I’m among friends on this website.

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It’s been awhile… I still check in regularly but find my core projects moving away from gasification. I’m loving all the small engine charcoal units up and running. Currently I’m focussing on high insulation building and all electric houses since that is the future. We sold off the former property and moved a little south to technically a more densely populated area but our place is more rural then the last one. Less cottagers more farmers… The new house is icf construction, heat pump heated and cooled, triple paned windows and will be solar powered with grid connection and battery backup. I’m just writing all this to back up other posts. Read the terms, use your real name, keep it civil… Don’t descend into the common internet muck… I’ll attach a picture, this is me.
Cheers, David Baillie

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Did you bring your Fergie?

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I built some ICF houses back in the 90’s David. Excellent choice. It was a hard sell because of the initial cost. Most people preferred stick framing. We could not use wood siding. Mold tended to develp between the foam and the wood.

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