''FREE'' energy

Anyone know anything about this? I usually don’t take these seriously, but this seem different; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-h4N94V5s0

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Modern ICE’ s can already do this. This is why our modern cars get the fuel mileage they do today. The cylnder heads are chambered diferently than the old days. When the piston is in the compresion stroke the gas vapor, droplets follow the walls of the cylinder and hit the surface area of the head at the extremely high volocity creating fast eddy currents evaporting the gasoline at this stage. This causes expansion / higher compression. It is better to do this post intake rather than before like shown. Nothing he is doing here is new, This is about as old as our engine run gasifier systems themselfs. This technology is already in use. Just go buy a new car.

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ROFLMAO…
If you see any generator with a gasoline tank still on it… what do you think ?
Its claimed that it makes its own energy… ( same time you can put a load on it… )

Please repeat in controlled conditions… if the sum of total input energy forms is smaller than the useable energy output… i have a reward you can get…

about 5 years ago, i did put out a reward of 10,000,000 $
Come to my lab, with your proof of concept, if it works, you’l walk out with the reward…

I had many Nigerian prince story’s , asking for money to build their concept…
Nobody came till today…

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Too many perpetual motion machine ideas. Too much wasted brain space.
Rindert

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It wasn’t free energy. I think he was doing the balancing like the Matt said, and possibly adding water to the cylinder with the bubbler or hho with the generator. I couldn’t handle watching the whole thing. He lost me when he said something like “it oscillates but at 0 there is no frequency, and that is what makes this work”

Frequency is the wavelength over time. For any single point on a wavelength. there is no frequency because there is no time.

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Is that still available? I could use 10M dollars. :slight_smile: Plus you have a sweet lab that I want to check out. :slight_smile:

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I’m pretty sure free energy already exists but as long as the world is controlled by meters, and those with control can use it to keep you subjugated, you won’t be getting it. Energy, fuels, information, all sold piecemeal for as much profit as possible. They are not concerned about the few hundred people driving on wood, or a few million with their PV. That makes them look like they are looking for solutions. If you believe ZPT is already developed and hidden then you will be labeled as a conspiracy theorist, mocked and ridiculed. That’s OK. we are now in sci fi world and the powers that be will be driving themselves crazy trying to keep a lid on all that has been hidden. A few links that I think give strong hints at the processes at work. Of course I have seen discourses that claim there is no proof that electrons exist. I know I’ve never been personally introduced to one.

https://youtu.be/bHIhgxav9LY

https://www.quora.com/Did-Nikola-Tesla-design-a-zero-point-energy-generator

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Hi Sean, yes still available…

The concept: i have a well defined source/level of energy input on one side, lets say 1000 watts
well monitored, well measured, well documented, certified and observed by university.

Other side we have another measuring device that measures exact the same.

Put your device between those 2 points, in a well enclosed box, no external influences, no battery’s, no
devices with any stored energy source, free of any kind of energy.

The box will be sealed and monitored, input and output measured.

if the output balance / nett result is greater than the input, you walk out 10M richer

The result have to be clear, out of the error of measurement range, confirmed by the university.

Send in description proof of concept, we will reply if acceptable, set up a test lab , run the tests…

Most of the charlatans claim a huge gain/multiplication input to output.

Our side, we believe that energy can’t be created.
Any source, measurable, used as input other than the source provided, will nullify the test.

However, if you would be able to harvest some energy from nature, making any setup profitable, we all can confer into a win/win to develop such harvesting system.

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Another video surfaced it was emailed to me. This one is in english. Yeah its not a vaporator like I thought. Does he have something here? I have no idea. This needs to be in a lab with a control unit to really show me anything.

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I think I know what is going on here. His apparatus is a lot more complicated than it needs to be. But basically he’s condensing water vapor from the exhaust and reintroducing it at the intake. If he does it exactly right this will increase power and efficiency by ~20%, in an unmodified engine.
If he were to increase the compression ratio he might achieve ~50 a increase. Pat Goodman modified a Ford Fiesta back in the 1970s.
This was also something the P-51 Mustang fighter airplane could do as a desperation, last ditch attempt to outrun an enemy. It’s well known natural phenomenon.
Rindert

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Sorry if this is going off topic, but this is really interesting.
That video has got me thinking. I’ve not been able to find much info on Pat Goodmans design. Any ideas where I can find more info.
Has anyone tried this on a wood gas engine? I’m thinking specifically for vehicles. The water may help with lubrication and possibly recover some of the power lost by wood gas. If it is really as simple as it sounds in the video it would be worth it to give it a try to see what happens even without modifying the compression.

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Some racers inject a water-methanol mixture to achieve the same thing, basically. It’s possible to add water injection to most gasoline and diesel engines. There are kits out there that you can buy. What happens is the water mist boils to steam in the combustion chamber harvesting excess heat that would otherwise be lost in the exhaust. Flame speed in the combustion chamber is also reduced making it seem as if higher octane fuel is being used. I think ‘the right answer’ is to mix the water and fuel. I can’t say whether this is going to help a wg fueled engine
I recommend you really understand what’s going on before you start tinkering. It is not hard to ‘hydrolock’ an engine if you have an intake manifold that has places where water can pool.
YouTube search: water injection diesel engine.
Rindert

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This is one of those jobs where it’s a good idea to study internal combustion engine theory first, before flailing around building bubblers and HHO Generators etc.
What’s interesting is I studied all this long ago, in college. I found most of the information I wanted in sir Harry Ricardo’s book The Internal Combustion Engine. The interesting part today is that I asked chat GTP to review the principles put forth in Ricardo’s book. Chat came up with a very nice summary. I don’t think it was hallucinating at all, I think it was accurate.
Thermal efficiency is proportional to compression ratio. If we have an engine with 7.79 compression ratio, it would have 56% thermal efficiency. If the engine’s mechanical losses are 30%, then we have 26% power to the shaft. That’s about what they tell us a gasoline engine efficiency is. 25%. So, where can we pick up some efficiency. One place is in the lubricating oil. Tom will like this because it is conspiratorial. When they used to put PTFE in engine oil it would cut the friction in half. Anecdotally, I used to prove this, by using slick 50 in my engines. We had a Toyota Camry that got 63 miles to the gallon going from Calumet down to Traverse City. It had a fresh oil change with slick 50. What we were doing there was chiseling away at that lost 30% of mechanical inefficiency.
A turbo charger is another way.
If you are burning gasoline, an electric fuel pump is another way.
Roller bearings instead of plain bearings.
The above are factual methods for making more shaft power with a given compression ratio.
Now for the armchair ideas
Let’s say you have an hho generator attached to your gasoline engine. You could do what the original Honda CVCC did. You could make a stratified charge engine sort of. Let’s say you jet the carb so lean that the engine won’t fire. Then add hho (Brown’s gas) until the combined mixture ignites. Hydrogen is way more flammable than gasoline so there would be a spread.
So the question becomes… Is the loss generating the electricity greater or less than the amount of gasoline saved by leaning out the mixture?
Sorry no over unity crazy hand waving here.
Although, I should ask Chat how to incorporate water injection into this scheme.

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This is the problem…slow flame speed means the mixture is still burning when the intake valve opens. I am still trying to grasp how water injection prevents this. Does the steam quench the flame?

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I am glad i found again the clips/info on what the OP was reminding me…
Paul Pantone and his Geet Fuel Processor / reactor… and all of it spin off’s…

See any similarity’s ?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-GEET-reactor-What-is-it-used-for-and-how-does-it-work

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Angola crude oil is really watery. did you see how fast that liquid moves in the bottle? is that fake or just not dewatered?

It looks like he might have a watershift reaction, from the exhaust heat, water plus the carbon monoxide. And the fact stainless steel has nickel in it which is a catalyst.
More interesting from google AI.
“higher temperatures and pressures generally favor the reaction rate and hydrogen production, but can also lead to side reactions.”

"industrial applications often use a two-stage process with a high-temperature shift followed by a low-temperature shift to maximize hydrogen production. "

Then thermal decomposition of carbon dioxide temperature range is typically 650-700C (1200-1300F)… Exhaust temperature are in the 1300F ballpark.

I did not look up catalysts for the decomposition of CO2 reaction.

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Free energy, … The Sun, where the nuclear reaction of fusing hydrogen nuclei into helium takes place, supplies the Earth with energy, which is naturally stored in plants through the process of photosynthesis, which represents the energy for life for us humans and animals. This again brings us to the use of wood as fuel, which can be used to power steam engines and internal combustion engines, well, the latter are much more efficient and also accessible to everyone. We have already talked a lot about the efficiency of wood gas engines, if I list the basic characteristics once again:

  • the engine should have a CR of up to 1: 13, the ignition advance should be automatically adjustable with a vacuum and centrifugal regulator in the range from 10 to 40° before the top dead center of the piston
  • wood gas is almost always somewhat humid, part of the moisture condenses in the cooler, and the remaining moisture contributes to operating efficiency, reduces the possibility of knocking, …
  • because wood gas is relatively less calorific compared to gasoline, combustion is much cooler, which means less heat loss into the engine housing, and at the same time we have more gases in the cylinder, which absorb this heat and therefore expand and push the piston, water droplets - mist has a particularly large elongation when the state of aggregation changes from liquid to gas

This is how I imagine free energy.

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Actually not a problem. Lower flame speed in the combustion chamber allows better efficiency.
Think in terms of pressure rise. Very high rate of pressure rise causes engine knock. It wastes fuel and destroys engines.
Rindert

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If its using waste heat to create a reaction, its not free energy its a device thats making the engine more efficient. No different than Turbo its using waste energy to drive itsefl.

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i honestly dont think it worked at all. It has just enough principles to make it seem plausible but the vacuum he mentions is going to be wrong. And if it was a heat thing, the exhaust tube outside would be insulated. You have the unburnt gas and CO coming off the engine that is getting recirculated, and there is potentially some hydrocarbon cracking going on. But it isn’t free energy. More efficient probably but most of the improvements are already done in modern engine designs to reduce emissions.

And IIRC Angola was trying to establish itself on the oil market at about the same time.

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