Life goes on - Summer 2022

Very short video from 10 years back .

Mom was wrong :neutral_face:

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Mine said "if you don’t stop that you will go blind. I can see see a little.

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Not too change the suject, bot sure ware to post this questains too you all vetron farming group…I am wanting too know if there any good canning devices other than canning jars for yearley food canning, What are the largest canning container available, and or would large canning containers have any cons.or down side. THANKS . AND any links for good canning containers / THANKS

They make half gallon and gallon jars, but low-acid food needs to be sterilized in a pressure cooker, and the internal temperature needs to reach like 240F so it takes a lot longer. And most pressure cookers are designed for quart jars or smaller. High acid foods can be done with a water bath method, and you can use bigger jars.
The glass jars are reusable. They make reusable lids too. ( All – Tattler Lids ).

You could also opt for actual cans, but those require a sealing machine and a chuck that is made for that can size. Then you can use a #10 or #12 can. But they are not reusable or so they say. And the only ones I found were for dry goods only. The sealer machine is about $1k+. a survival store had a pallet of cans for 2k or $4-5 a can.

The USDA has canning guidelines and sterilization times for canning. They oversee all commercial canning operations. I suspect you can’t get bigger actual cans rated for non-dry goods without some sort of commercial license. Which brings you back to glass, which they do offer guidelines.

I will be corrected but I think most people shifted away from metal cans during wwII because you couldn’t get them. We used to use old mayonnaise jars but those aren’t glass anymore.

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Thanks sean interesting facts about canning machines, and what can use, i might try and find some gallon canning jars. And maybe a good book for canning procedures for varios foods.

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Kevin in our location moving we surfaced buried stored a fair amount of 1/2 gallon and even one gallon glass canning jars. No one in the families has used these for 60-70 years.
The problems are multiple.
Getting the center food fully cooked-safe sterilized.
Once opened with smaller families then what was opened was not one-meal/24 hour used up. Food sickening’s from been opened then refrigerated happened.
Last . . . you lose a whole big jar of food: dropped; bad sealed; food acid lid corroded thru and it is a BIG food loss. One quart. Oh, well. Onto the next.
Ha! If we were driving close I’d give you some of these (subject to sneeking them past the wifie)
S.U.

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Ball canning book ( maker of canning jars) seems like I’ve seen these in stores that handle the jars. If I remember correctly I got mine at the county’s extension office. Here they have lots of different flyers on different subjects well worth your time to check them out

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The usda has a free booklet that is probably more comprehensive then Ball’s. it is 196 pages.

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Those one gallons my family always used for sauerkraut, but we eat that stuff like candy so it goes fast even in a big jug. One dish my dad makes actually used a full gallon, pork bbq smoked ribs buried it in. Mm mm tasty!

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You got ribs in yours?!?!
I must of had a poor childhood. The biggest jars were used for tomatoes at our house.

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Out of an old 1970’s catalog.
No longer available. Another Once-Was from the last Millenia


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We always had meat between the farm animals and hunting/ fishing. These days dad only does chickens and 2 pigs every other year since we sold the big farm many years ago. Living on a rock hill side there isn’t a whole lot of farming a guy can do. 3 small raised garden beds when we were kids it was a half acre garden half it a green house

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I normally can a couple hundred quarts a year. I even pressure can tomatoes rather than water bath. I have zero interest in finding out what botulism poisoning is like. As SteveU said. Gallons, unless you are preserving something very high acid like pickles or sourkraut, is in my opinion risky because of the volume you have to raise to that level of heat and pressure. Stick with what’s easy and safe and get an All American pressure canner. Best money you will ever spend.

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Really i dont think they want people too survive there next big crash, Lots of out of stock things these days it seems, canning jars seem to be a good method enough. Once i finish buying welding supply for gasifier project, I should snag some canning jars for next year, I found some mig welding wire on craigs list cheaper than ebay, not too far away, like half the price.And thanks for the book choice thoughts i found one non ebay for under 10 bucks 192 pages.LIKE NEW.

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What you think on half gallon jars,Those are cheaper and more available, sorry if its a stupid questain. i have never canned even a single 1/2 pint of survival food.THANKS

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All American is probably the best, I would probably go with presto second because of parts availability. Mirro was sold off. and Nesco doesn’t have parts anymore.

I’m still waiting for the set and forget electric canner/pressure cooker.

Apparently Ball, Bernardin, Golden Harvest, and Kerr are all part of the Newell company now. They make almost all of the mason jars. But I think that leaves only two manufacturers of lids in NA. The other being the tattler reusable lids.

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There are vacuum pumps that let you use mason jars.

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Thanks Nice vidio on vacuem packing dry goods in canning jars.

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In the regular 25 quart size All American you can process 7 quart jars or 19 pint jars. Quarts are a large as I go. I’m not sure you can get half gallon jars in my canner. All these things are hard to come by now. When the lock downs started all canning supplies and gardening supplies flew off the shelves and you could hardly find any for two years. Ball jar lids were unavailable til recently and they were $1.79 a dozen at Menard’s in 2019. I recently bought some, finally available, for $3,58. I bought the best, made in China, ones I could get but they are not nearly equal to the Ball lids. Tattlers are a little pricey but good. I just don’t have hundreds of them. The canners were around $200 a few years back and are now $450 if you can find one in stock. Why do I think they are still worth that kind of money. Because they will still be working in 25 or more years. Nothing else, at least in the States, comes close by a mile. Anyway things are going badly south. Next spring you will be lucky to find seeds or other gardening supplies. What will be produced will be gone as soon as it hits the shelves. Get what you can now. Serious as a heart attack.

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I bought some at that price too. That is why I suggested tattlers. :slight_smile: They are like 75c/ea in bulk. vs 30c/ea for one time use lids. It is a no-brainer if you are planning on canning. It is a two year payback.

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