Thanks Giorgio, i believe this one to be made before 1949, by pictures. The guy i got from has the manual for it, when he finds it, i can see for sure.
This one has an interesting magneto ignition i like to show you, a Scintilla Vertex, very good stuff, almost indestructible.
Im going to post more about that in the ignition thread.
Goran, great info, Alba’s engine, looks like it’s all cast iron, flat head, low compression, but no problems with twisting the valves if it sucks tar.
I looked at this engine, the Aran Torpedo, otherwise it is a 1100 cc diesel engine with one cylinder, but it is indestructible, I would add a spark plug, lower the compression ratio,…
I think that before youtube, hardly any Americans would have heard of wood gas vehicles before Mother Earth News did an article, I think it was around 1980. I know that MEN is where I learned about Wayne. 2012? Seems like it was always a thing in Europe.
I don’t think many americans know about it. It was known about in the country folks, especially the generation before yours, but mostly looked down upon. It is finicky, dirty, smelled, started fires, etc. Parts of the same reason why we have gas for vehicles instead of diesel. The kicker was the gas tax. It was illegal to use because you didn’t pay any road tax on it. Because you couldn’t hide it, people used wood distillates or mainly methanol which also was popular in race cars as well. Since having a still is illegal, I would venture to guess most of those folks also made ethanol as well.
In Europe, they didn’t have much of a choice. They import most of their oil and during the war it was blocked and it saved their butts. As near as I can tell, they don’t actively discourage people from using it at all.
Useless to discourage. One in a million Mr Wayne says? It really is the correct number. More stills here then woodgassers, and the stills changed course to XTC. That is discouraged with fines and jail but the profit is to high. Woodgas sets you free but it aint free, only a few succeed.
We are different countries with different problems, prior to 2005 it was literally cheaper to burn corn in a pellet stove then it was to buy wood pellets.
The road tax was on the books, and some people get really pissed if you are dodging taxes, and you get turned in.
Here, there’s an annual fee on every vehicle, depending on weight and power. Usually a couple hundered € a year. I don’t pay it, because both my vehicles are veterans, 30+ years and exempt.
Still, the majority of the fuel price is tax. But wait a minute - I don’t pay that either
just pay and they are off your back. Diesel is banned now (10 years ago emission was ok, now the worst . My parents were driving tax free then in a Citroen C3 and now pay 130 a month). Got my wife out of a BMW 118d, nice little car but roadtax is killing you and it was more thirsty then our first BMW 320d??? Got a ML270cdi, €250 a month. At the same time my tax free old timer G-klasse fun project went from tax free to €170 a month. Registered both cars on business/van plates (two seater) and they were €40 a month. Our EV is very very good for the environment , but mostly for my wallet, no roadtax at the moment. And we use the grid as battery so no fuel cost either. Only less profit from PV, if you take that into account it cost me €0.44/kWh, €0.08/km, €0.05/mile. Go with the flow but dont eat everything they serve you, be inventive and keep your wallet closed. Sometimes I wonder how people pay their bills overhere.
Joep, I can hardly believe what I’m reading. That’s a huge chunk of ones income only to keep the vehicles road legal - even without driving a single mile. I think I would sell all vehicles, quit work and stay in bed. Or - keep one, skip the tax and accept a fine now and then. Probably less expensive.
Wife drives a 2007 Citroën C5 1.6l diesel. Road tax is about 350€ (A YEAR). I’ve lost a lot of sweat and tears paying that bill. I realise now, that’s nothing compared to what you have to put up with.
We had a few months €700/ month, no fun and cant get anything in leaking/ flushing out like that. Couldnt go for yearly check with the G klasse. Told my father I gonna pay someone to get the papers fixed. Whaaa, impossible. Haha €250 and fixed, eat that old man, our country is corrupt .
Ml was used to much for work anyway so nobody wants to go with it in the weekend, all legal fixed.
My parents had a camper for 23 years and just when it turned 25 roadtax changed and they had to keep paying . Couldnt help teasing him.
Well, we have enough to eat so everything is ok but our government is never satisfied.
That’s the buity of living fairly rural. Our county is 2/3 the size of your country. Two or three main roads, that can easily be avoided, have a few speed cameras. During nights and weekends there are only two police cars on duty Still 99% of us pay our road tax, I still leave the keys in the ignition over night and the front door is unlooked most of the time. I just wonder - for how long it will last
Yes, we talk about coming your way. Sea level rising. Sometimes I think we have to for our children s sake. Sea will be at our front door in fifty years, all the big cities will be under.
Our place is kinda rural, almost no police and if I forget my keys I wont go out. We will blend in . Maybe steer up north instead of south next year:grinning:. But my network is here, to old to start over again. And most of all, I really like my place.
Sorry, bether on topic and talk about is at a woodgas meetup.
Here in Michigan the road tax is 28 cents a gallon I believe. Just part of the price at the pump. No tax on fuel used for Ag and I doubt many farmers are driving around on taxed fuel. No real way to monitor it. Still, the prices that Joep is quoting would be far more than most people here could afford. I had to figure it out. If you drove 15000 miles a year and got 20 MPG then your road tax here would be 210 dollars.
You cant call it road tax if you put it on a gallon. Overhere it is more then doubled upon the gas/diesel price/liter If you dont drive/use fuel you dont pay anything. Roadtax should we call ownertax or something. It doesnt mather if you drive or not, they suck you empty. Nothing changed since the dark ages, you shall pay tax as long as you live. French revolution showed that if people dont have anything to eat, they start using the guillotine and get what the want. That is better nowadays, as a matter of fact the best since history of mankind. Not complaining, just looking for opportunities.
the state gas tax is around that, plus 18c/gal federal tax, and 6% sales tax. Truckers pay a flat fee as part of their license. (and it might be more, I only did a quick google search.)
Technically, you don’t have to pay road tax on any fuel that isn’t used on the road. However, you now need the tax-free fuel paperwork and it is a lot more work then the 5 dollars you would save a year.
It would cost €4000 fuel in a mid sized van and roadtax €500/year for a work-van. People in Ukraine or Gaza have different problems, all politics, taxes, war etc, It doesnt matter as long as you have the feeling that you are free and can do what you want.