They don’t have very many styles listed which may be a good thing if they reused the same design. It looks like you would need to measure and know what it looks like on top… Which you will want the dimension and such anyway at least for records, because you may need to make the brushes. And while you are at it, put a ohmeter on the coils so you know what resistance they are -supposed- to have when they are working. Resistance along with the wire gauge you can calculate the length if you have to rewind the coils. Rewinding the coils of a motor that old, probably isn’t as hard as rewinding some of today’s motors.
It is old, it is still using 104v/208v. Definitely pre-WWII, and possibly closer to the 1910s. Cooling might be issue running at today’s current. a heat sink, extra fans, or something might be in order.
Thanks for the link Sean.
The PW1 looks very close.
Not sure on the bearings. I inspected for excess play (there wasnt any) but didnt pay attention beond that.
I will have to take a gander next time im in there.
I guess the one benefit in regards to excess heat. Its new job will not require it to run for long periods of time.
Given it is that old, a previous owner may have rewound it. it was like 1/3 as much to rewind the coils and replace the bearings then it is to buy a new motor, in which case, it may also handle the higher voltages better.
I was just wondering about the bearings because I don’t think they had sealed bearings back then and you had to pack them. A lot of smaller motors used bushings and had felts for putting oil in for lubrication. If it has sealed bearings, it might indicate it was rewound as well.
I had a few minutes so I called an AC motor service place. Guy was friendly and willing to answer my questions.
He said there are not many left around with greasable bearings. But those that do are using
Mobil Polyrex™ EM series grease.
He mentions the same thing you did, that they may have been changed out already to greaseless bearings. (Im thinking not…or at least on the front one because it still had the pipe and grease zerk. just a guess)
He did say motors like this got one squirt of grease for every 10,000 hours of run time. I laughed at that and said “so only once in my life time ”
He also said that as long as i dont get over 228v i should be fine.
A lot of NICE finds here on this thread, I ended up getting this millermatic wire feeder, look like it had sat in the rain or a roof was leaking above it, So I had to through out the controller box, the rest seems working great, I picked it up for around 15,bucks at local auction house, every week auction’s. Hoping I can find a old millermatic mig welder & wire feed repair manual, have not looked much yet though
Sweet Niblets!
Goran, you scored a nice moped there. I hope it is one of those clean the fuel tank and carb, clean the spark plug, put in fresh fuel (2-stroke, right?) pump the tires up and go for a ride deals!
I hardly see any classic mopeds anymore, they are all made in China scooter-shaped clones.
Hi Mike, yes, it’s a two-stroke, and actually a better deal, as it is a runner “as is”.
Only trouble is when it gets real warm it starts to misfire, and run bad.
This is the reason the former owner don’t wanted it anymore.
These mopeds use a electronic ignition system with a thyristor module, im pretty sure the module is the culprit.
Found this aircooled Deutz 40 kVA unit . Couldnt resist The flesh is weak. Scrap price. I hope it runs. The point of real woodgassing is coming close now.
When i was a kid we had a Same tractor with an air cooled Deutz the engine was the only good part of that tractor. Those are tough as nails. The Same had a pre heater for the intake air that motor would start regardless of how cold it was outside because of that pre heater. That is a great find.
Yes, thanks, it is. And works like a beast. When starting it tried to run away but yesterday evening it did just fine.
A little smoke, I wish I had some skills to take it apart, but for the moment it does what is needed.
Taking it apart is easy. Putting them back together is tricky… actually one nice thing those air cooled engines are really simple the pasquali i have is the same basic design. They are a pretty simple rebuild if you get to that point. But in the video i would be happy with what i see there.
Pascuali has a Lombardini? Just like Georgeo and my Agria? The Deutz runs at 1500 rpm, the Lombardini 3000. Screamers. Got a genset, have to look somewhere. I think it makes a lot more noise.
And yes, aircooled is a lot more basic. Changed over to that side .
fantastic finding, tone…
a farer neighbour of my mother in law has 1 eicher traktor from his own farm…than he found another …and than a third…and has garage space from former farm buildings…her is the point when it becomes dangerous…now he has 15…
deutz motors are smaller, so less space problems…
even less space problems with chainsaws…
greetings to göran
Oooh, Tone, im jealous, on both the engine and the saw!
070s are strong beasts, and every part are available (china) at www.Sägenspezi for example.
I got a china clone 070 with 36"bar and .404" chain, it pulls without hesitation
Altought im going to get crank, cylinder and piston for clone 090 (130cc) for that one.