I’m referring to ionosphere for explain that first we need to see what appear around us because nature is the key for understand how the energy born. Ionosphere is just an example of air ionization reached by temperature… I remember to you that without the thermosphere isn’t possible have the ionosphere. However from temperature is possible extract also electrical current. In my wood reactor im able to produce an magnetic field and conseguenty many current as Hans Oersted explain.
How can that contribute, in a down to earth way , as this topic stands for, to charcoal gasification ?
About Hans Kristian Oersted, he discovered that electric currents create magnetic fields, an important aspect of electromagnetism, His initial interpretation was that magnetic effects radiate from all sides of a wire carrying an electric current, as do light and heat. Three months later he began more intensive investigations and soon thereafter published his findings, showing that an electric current produces a circular magnetic field as it flows through a wire.
Where is ever claimed that its possible to extract electrical current from heat ???
I think that either you never went to school or that incase you did, you just where sleeping… but you’r talking nonsense…
From your reply I understand clearly your mentally limitation… likewise I can compare yourself to the church who said that the earth was flat.
An clear example of extraction of electrical energy from heat is seebeck effect or thermionic effect or photoelectric effect. All of these effects are connected togheter. Of course… these methods have an lower efficiency but the question is… why?? Is clear that an direct action of heat on metals isn’t the right way… you need an medium from metals and the air is the right solution. In special conditions with heat I’m able to ionize the air without an external electricity source and the result is an great heat produced from the short circuit generated from the current generated directly from the air. I have two patents based on this process. For the future I suggest you to remember that you are just an man and not an god.
SEEBECK EFFECT:
The generation of an electric current (or electromotive force) when two conductors of different metals are joined at their ends to form a circuit, with the two junctions kept at different temperatures. The Seebeck effect is the basic operating principle of the thermocouple. It is named after the German physicist Thomas Seebeck (1770–1831) who discovered it in 1821. http://jamclasses.drbanjo.com/static/dimages/seebeck_effect_2.gif
Let’s rein it in folks… Remember this is Drive On WOOD. Not air, water, or anything else. Stick with the subject at hand, charcoal gasification methods.
I’d hate to have to lock this thread but I will if necessary. Keep it civil please.
I am very polite unlike other and I still use wood as fuel to get the reaction described above. I do not go out the theme of the thread. The man is born to create and be open-minded to new ideas…
The tread is Charcoal gasification methods. please stay at the topic.
My questions are crystal clear, where is the relevance ?
I did reread your contributions, but can not find a described way to benefit charcoal gasification.
We talk here about ways how can we convert the energy from carbon into a gaseous condition and use it.
For an endothermic reaction we would need external energy yes, but i see no relevance ( yet ) with the processes you’r describing.and the conversion of carbon into carbon monoxide, Methane, hydrogen oxygen.
i am familiar with any process you described so far , so please bring it to an point of relevance…
The point of relevance is the formation of CHEMICAL PLASMA using an lower amount of syngas. You can use this high temperature source for standard wood gasification or for charcoal gasification. This process use normal air and transform the nitrogen inert gas into an ionization flame. In fact you obtain an very similar plasma like with an electrical source. Using the chemical plasma you can purify syngas also. Some applications are possible with an right reactor design.
This is the flame from the plasma burner with the purified syngas using wood pellet… The photo is on black because the flame normally is bluish transparent at high temperature.
Do you think the video is an fake? Please watch the flame in action to - YouTube
Gentlemen; You have been rattling on for some time ( almost this entire thread) and you have not said one thing that I can put into operation that will help me. I have a truck running on wood and I am in the process of stock piling charcoal to run a generator with a Gilmore Simplefied gasifier. After all of this discussion please tell me, in simple language, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, what exactly can I do to take advantage of this chemical plasma or the addition of a nickle catylist or what ever else you are talking about.
Well spoken Tom. Like I said before, we’re all about practical gasification here. New ideas may have merit, but don’t bother discussing them here until you build something and prove that it works.
Marco and Koen, please make your final remarks (one post each), then this thread is closed. Thank you.
You are talking whole time about using plasma, more precisely arc discharge plasma generating ? The “same” kind device that Dauci already proposed ?
To your information, Plasma gasification exist already in many ways. One factory where i was involved is called Europlasma, with their first 12MW plant in Morcenx France.
They use Plasma to purify the syngas, making it more rich, for the use in combustion engines. They are still working on some issue’s dough.
Daici’s idea for plasmafying ( i like this word) water into superheated steam was easy to understand and useable. ( i hope i say it correct Dauci, forgive me if i am wrong )
Can you please explain your idea’s the same way, the KIS way ? ( keep it simple )
EDIT: Sorry Chris, i was writing this same time you posted it.
"Ok , Chris this is my last posting then in this topic.
@ Dauci and @ Johnny
I did my research in this matter and my conclusions are as follows;
Both devices are giving a huge power boost to the gasifier and for the
earlier described reasons as well.
In an other topic, i gave an example about the increase of available power
depending the content of the gas.
Since the HHO generator produces Hydrogen and Oxygen this will deplace the
nitrogen in the needed air for the combustion of the charcoal and increase the combustion rate at the same time, thus
increasing amounts of usable gas / cft
Same goes for the Steam-plasma generator.
if you want more easy explanations- research wikipedia water gas - town gas,
you’ll find a few interesting facts
I envy both off you for the excellent ideas, please do use it … or else
send it to me and i will
Thanks guy’s
Chris, i am realy enjoying the work you guy’s did and are doing
Plasma gasification exist as technology but consume a lot of electrical kilowatt, this new method consume lower amount of fuel and obtain the same result. For syngas purification the temperature range of plasma torch is from 900 to 1300°C. When you have an stable heat source like plasma you don’t need an external induction device for the steam creation. From my tests I see that also nitrogen at these temperature interact with carbon and hydrogen forming HCN burnable gas.
Personally I have study more on brown gas or HHO and more tests on… For produce 2.4 liter per minute of brown gas you must spent 480W of electrical energy. What is the sense when using plasma torch without electrical consumption you can split the water directly???