Yes Tom my mistake .
Yes. Exactly always my approach BruceJ.
Your own site grown woods. Your own controlled fuels.
Sure you have to sweat-it a bunch. That just makes you healthier, wealthier, wiser.
But the personal Freedom, and personal Control is the goal.
Not about howl-at-the-moon Independence. That shit get you noticed, in trouble.
And for me not about Grants seeking. Investors trolling. Patents peers back slapping recognitions.
And certainly not about Cities wastes nose-rooting. Or Planet-saving.
Ha! I get a lot of Hate for my self-centered obstinate laser focus goal.
Realistically it is only the Rural DIY guys actually making and using shaft power with wood.
All this other is Spin-Doctor games playing on, and on, down thru the decades 1980ās to current.
āTune-In. Turn-On. Drop-out.ā Is the only proven successful woodgasing attitude. Using full cycle sun-to-earth-to-you, thermal-chemical as your turn-on leverage.
S.U.
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For comparison
Southern California Edison (SCE) owns and operates the Pebbly Beach Generating Station, a 9 megawatt diesel-fueled electricity generating plant located in Avalon. The diesel fuel is shipped in by barge from the Port of Los Angeles.
During the Record Period (January 1 through December 31, 2008), SCE purchased 57,806 barrels of diesel fuel and burned approximately 55,000 barrels of diesel for electric generation at Santa Catalina Island. The average total cost per barrel was $146.39 [annual cost of $8,051,450].
The monthly average price of crude oil fell from $133 per barrel in July to $41 per barrel in December. Monthly average prices of diesel fuel followed suit by peaking in July at $4.764 per gallon and plunging to $1.427 per gallon in November and rising modestly to $2.45 per gallon in December.
Here is a video presentation that add to this topic.
He even mentions wood for firing.
Pictures here Iāve never seen.
You do have to follow through until he concludes the rail shift from steam to diesel-electric was due to not so much safety but operating and running costs.
The pictures alone should illustrate the steam boiler hazards.
As said you really want to screw around with high levels of energy releasing fire and high pressure water boilers??
Pressurized steam suddenly released Iāve read (accurately?) flash expands in volume by 1700X?
Yep. Yep. Modern hydraulics power and direct diesel and now direct gasoline fuel injections do generate, and operate at extreme high pressures too. But that pressure leaks sprays out. Can injure; even kill an individual. But not so much expanding in volume affecting others hundreds of feet away.
S.U.
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Well, that would eliminate steam explosions. Do a search for BLEVE if you think youād be better off. 
edit: sorry, I didnāt notice I was replying to a post thatās five years old.
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The guy in the video kind of glosses over the differences between fire tube vs. water tube boiler types. The old photo in the video is of a fire tube type. The water tube type can be made much safer.
Rindert
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Sure. Sure.
Iāve read the systems, attempts and data.
Doesnāt negate that ALL of the boiler mass, steam transfer mass and the actual āengineā in the piston chambers or turbine section have to be brought up to temperatures. Then shut down all of those hot masses bleed off and waste heat energies.
Steam speculators all just love to consider only the running fuels use economies. Not the up to operating and post operating energies that did need to be fuel accounted for too.
And that is why Any internal combustion system, including 2-strokes and Wankelās will beat a steams ass in realistic daily full stop and start cycles fuel use and maintenance hours.
S.U.
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