Life goes on - Summer 2022

Alot of people do not know that cop cars are made way better than their regular passenger car model. Better engines and suspension. Can usually be had cheap at auctions because of bad paint which the police maintenance crews just blow over the cop car markings, and high mileage. Despite the fact that cop cars spend a lot of time idling, they are still very well maintained. Still a lot of miles left in them. I have seen them converted to something like an El Camino by welding up the rear doors cutting the rear roof to make a PU bed. Iā€™ve seen pictures of really nice looking vehicles done this way.

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Told Kristijan I often forget about the camera in everyday lifeā€¦
Today Iā€™ve been on my knees longer than any woman I met - painting porch floors.

Looking forward seeing lotā€™s of selfies from @trikebuilder57, now that heā€™s got a new phone to play with :smile:

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JO, this istn your precious tar is it? I still got half of your bottle!

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J.O.
Brush looks kind of dryā€¦ :upside_down_face:
Everyone:
I am sorry I am so for behind in reading! I have missed a lot, there is so much to look at, and every thread within has rabbit holes I must explore. This is the finest group of people (and most productive) I have ever ā€œtalkedā€ with!! :grin:

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No, too cold outside. It needs close to 30C to be used as paint. But - the stairs are my own swingblade lumber though. Some of the first boards I made 12-15 years ago.
I wouldnā€™t dare painting the stairs with tar. If wife happened sit down for a cup of coffee at breakfast, wearing white knickersā€¦I would be in trouble :smile:

Mike, at first I didnā€™t get it. It still hasnā€™t started to green upā€¦yes, all the brush look kinda dry :smile:
The paint brush is wet for sure, but itā€™s not actual paint. Only a clear preservative oil.

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MikeR.,
And while you are nose down blind in a rabbit hole, I tell my dog those squirrels will chase and play!
S.U.

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Thatā€™s our dog too. Nose in a ground squirrel hole every day.
Bob

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Kristijan explain how is JOā€™s tar anymore precious then my certified Washington State hard wood Cherry tree tar.
Is It because it is from the Swedish grown trees of Sweden that it is made from? Lol
Bob

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Bob, the answer is simple. Its precious (to me) because its the only tar l got :smile: l have been trying to get my own from the Kursk but its harder thain it seems. It seems in order to condense tar out of pirolisis gas efficiantly, one needs to cool the smoke down much lower thain its boiling point (about 300c)

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Iā€™m in a similar camp. I can only collect pine tar resin. Burying the catch can under the burn can with a hole in the bottom of the burn can for it to drop down. Then building a fire around it, not very efficient.

Iā€™d like to eventually build a still for turpentine. Just about all of our tree farm stock is pine, very healthy. Just some cat faces into the sides and catch all the sap.

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And the pine turpentine I believe could be the liquid 2-cycle engines fuels.
S.U.

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Okay then try this on your Kursk on start up. Pipe all your exhaust smoke to a common header then through cooling rail to a drop out tank to atmosphere. Your Kurst is like a Big hopper of wood and the tar gas and water vapor is being slowly cooked out. Unless your temperature is so low that only the water vapor is leaving. But the wood fire that is the driving heat is hot and producing tars out the exhaust smoke it makes also, so maybe you can cool this smoke and get tar from it.
Bob

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Just running it straight in a 2 stroke engine? Not sure what the octane rating of turpentine is.

Cody I just did a quick search up of ā€œturpentine as a motor fuelā€
I got four use hits.
One was using bended with diesel as a fuel stretcher. Three youtubes.
One a link to a USDA test as a jet fuel.
One a ScienceDirect article link.
The last this, that Iā€™d put up previously. Not 2-cycles tried. Three different four stokes with very favorable results:

But this one using spec refined? turpentine.
And very credible evidence that the Japanese military used pine stumps made turpentine late in aviation, WWII.
2-strokes? You try maybe. Virtually no pines here wetside PNW.
S.U.

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Iā€™ve always got the bike engine I can try to run on turps. Iā€™d still add oil to it though, the bike engines are old school and like a lot of oil.

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no idea, but it is probably better to collect the sap and make rosin flux for soldering. It is a lot simpler process too. Off the top of my head, you saturate pine sap with isopropyl alcohol mix it and filter out crap. It is on my bucket list of things to do, and it may have move way up on the list because I canā€™t find my bottle atm and I need itā€¦ :stuck_out_tongue:

If you search you can find this book free online.
The book is about people that make a living from Damaged forests harvesting a Mushroom thatā€™s worth its weight in Gold in Japan.
It was once easy enough to come by over there because of the Damage done by would you believe excess charcoal production and logging as well as acidification of the soils from metal production.

Crazy world

When you distill the sap you get water, turpentine, and rosin as the byproducts.

You have to cook down the sap to make rosin. At the end of the run when you donā€™t get liquids coming out of the still, you drain off whatā€™s left in the pot and thatā€™s molten rosin.

I just need to buy a second milk can and still head. Stainless would be cheapest. I can weld in a bottom drain spigot. Wouldnā€™t want to use my essential oil still for turpentine making.

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That is neat. :slight_smile:
How do you get all the crap out of the resin before you boil it down? They are soaking it in acetone to dilute it then filter it in the stuff I just read/watched.

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It might not be fresh cut wild picked asparagus Bob, but the boys wife and I had a great time Sunday gettings some high dollar wild edibles from the Pacific Northwest ocean waters! Redemption for the measly clam dig a few weeks ago


First light we hit twin harbors beach for the razor clam dig, limit was 20 clams per person



Then out to the Westport pier for some crabbing with rod and reel, my favorite way to catch them. Final county 51 razor clams before the boys needed a break and breakfast, then 5 dungeoness and one red rock crab. Left the house at 5am, home by 3pm. Boys had a good nap on the way home, we ate 3 crab last night and froze the others for a later day, then the wife and I spent the next 3 hours processing clams for frying and chowder. A excellent way to spend a Sunday, and weather could not have been better for this outing mid 50ā€™s f, overcast and a light breeze. Unheard of weather for that length of time on the beach

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