Nothing beats doing the builds, not a million hours of contomplateing or questains. i bet that unit might be a good backup for a smaller engine electric generator. I like the looks of the dual flute down or side draft unit, that one looks simple enough for even me too see how too build.
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The main hopper will be used shielding rapping for fire tube fins on my new Gasifier build.
Cooling tubes will be reused and others piping valve parts
Stainless steel will be used in the Double Flute build
Reuse the Ceramic wool in other gasifer builds
Filter two 5 gallon buckets and Gasifier mounting support.
Yes The Gasifier that wanted to be is no more. Some of it is going to the Double Flute Gasifier build and other parts of it will be built into the retort.
Even my cyclone bag filter will be rebuilt with longer lasting materials now that I know it works and does not get all clogged up.
Trying to have no parts go to waste. It worked fine running a generator but I want it to weigh less than the generator not a lot more. It was just to heavy for what I need for.
A simple double flute gasifer will work nicely even more simple then I am building right now. I like Kristijan idea of completely KISS design.
Pull it apart to clean it out pull back together and run it.
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Here is a video I have not seen.
A model A Ford two door. Runs on charcoal or gas.
Bob
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Thanks Bob that was a neat video
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Bob, great video, just like Marcus said, the intake manifold is interestingly shown, where there is a separate gas mixer and gas carburetor, easy to make and it is possible to use both energy sources at the same time,… that’s how I imagine connecting the gas on the older one engine.
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Do you think that the 15 to 20 per cent power loss was accurate. That would be better than we are obtaining now. I’d like to have seen inside that reactor. I know Ford had a factory in Russia. Never knew about one in Spain.
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Hey TomH, I actually believe the only 10-15% power loss verus when on gasoline.
This engine was no ball of fire on gasoline. The common gasolines back then were very low octane. Say 40-60 horsepower out of 200-300 CID engines.
But the biggest reason was probably the on steering wheel ignition timing advance lever.
From zero to ~45-50 degrees.
Look on the Historic gasifier topics here on the DOW; and you’ll see hundreds of 1940’s Spanish and Portuguese vehicles gasifier pictures that the other Chris; Chris Seymour; has put up. Gasoline wartime embargoed they were building for themselves, and the South American markets.
S.U.
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The oil companies have been doing everything they can to develop ice vehicles that can not be run on wood gases. They have spent billions of dollors bribing oh I mean lobbing other companies auto and goverments agenies inviroment to do this for years. They the oil companies do not like compete with cheap free resorces that everyone can obtain like free pallets and scrap wood to run your vehicle on.
Bob
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They can keep on doing it wont effect me, WOODGAS FOR LIFE! plenty of millions of old school v8 that like the taste of wood! And now soon we will have tuning capabilities on our side to even make the ones we have better and step into newer rigs that they REALLY dont want us using. Imagine the pissy pants temper tantrum they will have when there are 2000 and newer rigs running on wood 
" its not supposed to do that! We designed that for e-85 and hybrid use ONLY!!??"
AHAHAHAHAHA! Hank Williams Jr. said it best, country folks can survive!
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I’ll be totally amazed to know that there are some thousands of people, at least in the US that could build and maintain a gasified vehicle. In the past, where out of necessity people turned to gasification, they were folks used to maintaining their own cars and trucks. Day to day life required some level of basic mechanical ability. That ship has sailed. The complexities of modern electronically controlled vehicles baffles even me and I have been a back yard mechanic wannabe all my life.
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This is true Tom, for our generation, but not so for our children and their children. It can be reprogram its a computer and the factory systems will think everything is okay when it is no longer running in the factory modes. Is it legit yes. You have to change it back for testing. Then back to your mode. Hummmmm. You have to know the right people. Shhhhhh. Lots more horsepower then factory.
Bob
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I have 5 kids Bob. 3 sons now in their forties. From the time they were teenagers I made them work on their own cars. Tune-up, brake jobs, clutch swaps, anything a person would need to do on a regular basis. We even had the hot rod mud truck, and they learned how to swap out engines and set up carbs. I don’t think any of them have a tool box now. They certainly don’t turn a wrench. The would rather pay someone a hundred and thirty bucks a hour to do their brakes and they claim to have no recollection of anything I taught them, like somehow it’s beneath them. Bah. I’m willing to bet that by the time you or I were 16 years old we knew more about machinery than 98 per cent of people do today. Not many Cody’s, Marcus’s or Jacobs floating around out there these days. Even the girls had to change tires before they were allowed to drive. You probably can’t tell this is a sore spot for me.
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On that note let’s here some wisdom of Uncle Tony, and the way the world is going with junk parts and quality control falling off and the theme of the day is incompetence everywhere and zero accountability
Those that are here on this forum are many miles ahead of most folks with the knowledge we share and we can try to pass it on to others. I am very thankful for everyone here and all the knowledge I have gained just in the last year and a half. I mean seriously guys, I have learned more in that short time then I learned in my last 2 years of highschool! And that really was the last time my brain was fully engaged in learning anything well, as engaged as you could get my brain outside of metal and auto shop class. If others don’t want to learn, or forget what they learned, well you did your part Tom. Can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink. Sometimes even if the horse has not had water and is dehydrated and on deaths door
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Yup I hear you. Dana’s oldest girl. Went to school to be come a Autotech. Finish all of her schooling and recieved her deplomas. She was already working in autoparts stores. She worked with the Chelan County PUD in the auto maintains department for a while. But she likes working in autoparts stores the best. At home she finds good vehicles in need of repairs. Repairs them and flips them for good monies. A lot of the finds and really good deals at actions. Both her and mike do his on the side. Her father inlaw loves to go to actions and knows a good deal when he sees one. Everyone has to find their place in this world to work. A lot of high tech work out there.
Bob
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Tom,
That’s a sad story about your sons. At least you tried.
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I have two boys that grew up on a farm, working with me building, and fixing everything from washing machines to hay machines. They went off to college, now they don’t know anything. 
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Al you make me glad I did not got to college for 6 years to earn a Doctors degree in knowing really nothing at all.
Bob
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Exactly Al. One son has a 63 Cadillac that he bought to turn a profit on. Told me he needed the carb rebuilt and paid some shop $345 dollars for the job. That was a Carter Carb. The same as the Edelbrock’s we use to run on the mud truck. He claimed to have no recollection of ever working on them. If you can’t take one apart and put it back together in a hour you probably have severe arthritis.
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BobMac this is your topic and I hate to contribute to more topic drift but I think this send’em away and get back Inept’s has a direct cause and effect.
Specialization! Over specialization leading to arrogance.
Who actually does working woodgas today??
Guys and gals who live and work as Generalists.
When the roof gutters leaf clogs they ladder climb up and clean them.
When the drain clogs after the bleach and drain cleaner doses fail to clear; they power drill snake them.
That worn loose electrical outlet gets recognized and changed out by them. The pressure leaking faucets replaced by them. Toilet worn/clogged and leaking flush/fill valves replace out by them.
They do their own winter <-> summer wheels and tires changing over in their driveways using the vehicles service tools. Practice. Brake inspections twice a year. Thier own pad slap replacements. Do their own oil changes.
Certainly, do their own filter changes. Furnace, cars, pickup trucks.
Colleges requires a person to buy into their systems to graduate. Part of that indoctrination is that “A Mind is a terrible thing to waste”. And intensely training the mind into narrow focused specialization. Difficult to learn specialization . . . then the wiliness to be a Do-Most generalist is lost.
Even us non-Degreed folk get channeled into Specialization to earn livings. Then modern culture “sold” that doing the simple needful things in Life is beneath us. Or too hard. Or too dangerous. Or you are depriving some other specialist Trades guy or gal of incomes work.
Like learning and doing basic metals welding. Metals welding adequately at least 2-3 of the FIVE different ways. Weldless wood using gasifiers are very limited. No-welding pipe fittings wood using gasifiers are heavy and get expensive.
To be a woodgasifer builder and User you must be; or become, a true working Generalists.
Uncle Tony’s assertation it is the mechanics that will save your world is correct.
Steve unruh
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I’m going to shut up now but concerning specialization guess what is green and would never been seen on my property.
Currently, when a piece of John Deere equipment breaks down on the job, its owner is expressly forbidden from making their own fixes—only authorized, company-employed technicians have those permissions.Mar 13, 2022
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