Hello Kristijan
I also noticed some difference in motor sound
Hello Kristijan
I also noticed some difference in motor sound
When Tone gets all the bugs out, we shuld ask him to do a video of the whole transition. Sound wise. Diesel, then woodgas plus pilot ignition and then the glowplug woodgas ignition. We have an unique machine here that can show us 3 types of combustion at once.
It sounds very strong and normal. I think you got a different camera that doesn’t sound like the engine is a semi-submerged bubble machine. I wonder how hard and what materials would be required to make those glow plugs in case they burned out, and could not be purchased.
Can I place a purchase order for you on these things for the glow plugs? (I mean it)
Now I became interested in rebuilding my tractor again.
I wonder if we have the same engines, I think it sounds much better in the engine now, you are fantastic.
I came to think of one thing, I played with radio controlled helicopters before, they had glow plugs with spirals in them, which we put power on at start, then the heat from the methanol made them glow, different long spirals to set the ignition.
…which makes me remember seeing your exhaust manifold. I notised you have only two runners on a 3-cyl motor? How does that work? I tried pausing the video but couldn’t get close enough to solve the mystery. Is that a stock solution as well?
The front two cylinders share one exhaust port, while the rear one has its own.
Jan, I will be happy to do the conversion, but first I need to fine-tune the operation of this engine (if I can do it, of course), so that you will have a “guarantee” of operation. Let me say that I currently have the automatic rev control switched off, which I need to change a bit, the power and torque of the engine is less than when starting with diesel fuel, but the operation is very fluid. If it is possible to move the ignition time vs the temperature of the glow plugs to the upper part, this method of ignition will be very interesting.
I think this will be possible, but it will require a computer. Today this is no problem. Computers are everywhere. But in the old days, when the hot bulb engine was invented, there were no computers. So development of hot bulb ignition systems just stopped.
A very basic way to do it would be if a knock sensor (microphone) and crank position sensor will send data to the computer telling it when each of the cylinders were firing. Then the computer could control the current to each of the glow plugs individually so that they would be at the temperature needed to ignite the fuel at the correct time.
Glow plug temperatures will have to be able to change quickly, so they will probably have to have very low ‘thermal mass’. Perhaps something like the Bosh Duraterm glow plug could be used, but I suspect that an entirely new type of plug will have to be developed. It would have to have the ability to change temperature quickly enough while providing the very long service life we have come to expect from modern engine parts, re: modern iridium spark plugs last 100,000 miles.
Rindert
Hi JoepK, I link some advice to you about your self-declared “failure” with woodgas here on Tone’s topic as he is a friend and does understand what I will be saying too.
Successful woodgasing to the point of loads running engines rewards best those who build and operate by FEEL. That means using all of their god-given senses. Experiences then learning to train then their sixth-sence. That un-thinking feeling that something is developing that is just not right. Wake-up! Tend to business!
Those whose life experiences are thinking thru problems and developments pretty-much fail at working applied woodgafication.
In short you are over-thinking woodgasifing too much. And feeling it too little.
Confused? It is easy. I know enough real people who have developed PV solar. Where is there any sound to this? Where is there any felt system changing vibrations to this? By the time a PV system makes operating smell changes you are far into unrecoverable failure.
Touch for normal heats versus no-function absence of heat is a good skill to develop. Touching for not normal developing problem heats is possible too. But: another big butt. . . with your most modern PV system voltages now just how well can you feel system heats through thick electric protective gloves? Not. Electronic thermal sensors dependent then that can and will fail, sooner or later. Skew bias into decisions.
Even mechanical made refrigeration lends itself to system heats feeling, smells (the presence and lack of) and systems sound changes performance vibrations. And certainly, functioning sounds hearing.
Bookeepers, accountants mindsets make for terrible, terrible woogas operators.
O-1 programmer electronic hobbyist mindsets are terrible at woodgas too.
So JoepK remember back and channel yourself back into the mindset of when you did do “by-the-seat-of-your-pants” activities successfully. Bicycling? Ice skating? Motorcycling? Hang gliding? Freehand metals welding? Activities where you exprences learned to pay attention to, “It just feels right”, “All-is-well”, “Oh Shit! About to burst! Crash and hurt!”
Regards
Steve Unruh
Thanks Mr Steve, that helps. Only my drizzler attempts were kind of succesfull. And Lagunovs design worked. Charcoal making was a disaster. Nevertheless a learning experience. I am building a electrostatic filter for the lister. Next disaster, from bad to worse. Well, we cant have all golden hands like Tone or Marcus. Haha, just watched his last video on his channel. I am glad he suffers the same.
And you are right, PV has no emotion. It just delivers, day after day, without complaints.
Waiting for parts and time to finish the lister. My goal was to heat the house this season. Well, another four weeks and heating season is over. Missed chance.
Have you thought about doing more conventional filtering methods, and future-proofing the gas routing so you can later add an electrostatic filter? Matt has proven a simple sawdust filter does wonders.
Far from golden, just dirty but thanks anyway haha
I think I have a handle on the lingo now though thanks to yall
Just for cleaning the diesel exhaust. But then Kristijan said something about e filter and that German guy on YT and others. It supposed to be simple, only not for me…
Yes, what Mr Steve said. Feel is better.
I am lucky. Just finished eating and into the next shift. 21.00 over here. Better then having no work. Writing this is pissible with my big friend, happy with his new motors. Get to unload him.
Live is easy this way.
Here I will also add some “encouraging” words for everyone who starts to produce wood gas. First of all, you need to reserve time for this work, if this work burdens you and you calculate your working hours as a lump sum, which a successfully completed project would pay you, it is better to abandon the “wood gas project”. If this job is fun and a challenge for you, you are already on the right track, so the time spent here is not a cost to you, but a satisfaction, similar to how you experience the journey through the picturesque landscape on the way to Dalmatia. Just as the road offers you different paths to your destination, there are also many possibilities to your destination in this work, Wayne presented his, Matt showed his, Giorgio his, JO his, Goran his way,… I also have my way which is definitely not the shortest, I hope it leads me to the goal. “Wood gas” is not a way to calculate savings, wood gas has become my way of life
Looks like a true worker, comfy chair and feet on the desk
I like your thinking Tone. Spot on.
If woodgas is a burden (like a normal job) - don’t do it.
If woodgas is a joy - win win.
Lunch time, time to edit videos right now so i look like a shop manager right now instead of a mechanic haha
Totally agree with you Tone, only not the above. Go with the flow. But you showed not going with the flow gives a extremely result, respect!
And work is a hobby, I dont hate it. Woodgas is too, only no results there. All right, enough peptalk guys. Standing on my feed again.
Just fixed this in a few hours.