JO's -91 Mazda B2600

Hi Kevin! No, if you have the ability to run gasoline the annual inspection is on gasoline only - with a cold gasifier. Also, most of us have 30+ year old vehicles and inspection is required only every other year.

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THEY used to have inspections here in usa years ago, so i gess were lucky on that one anyway. THANKS. DO the inspectors know what is in back of your vehicles, or do you tell them if they ask.

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They still have inspections in the usa. But not in Michigan. The Michigan ones that i believe you are taking about were roadworthy types of inspections. On the west coast and in the northeast they have emissions stickers. In California, they have a whole emissions package that includes extra stuff to comply. Ultra low sulfur fuel is also required in “pollution” zones, or big cities throughout the US regardless of whether they have emissions inspections.

If you have an ev then you can bypass the inspections which is a huge selling point. Not only does it cost money, it costs time. And the fines are high. Probably very similar to Europe.

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Yes Kevin, they do. Most people here know someone or have grandparents that were involved in woodgas in some way during WW2, even if it was only riding in the back seat as a kid. The inspector I’ve been visiting lately even owns a tractor converted model A Ford on woodgas himself.

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THATS some thing to think about, it sounds like it may have been more common in your country than it was in usa, though i have not tried google or other source to chech that fact proff or not.

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DO you or JO, think electric cars are more invirealmental cleaner than gasoline, after battery waiste recyling- and nuke charging stations, or is it just another gimmic,to take more money from the people. EV would be ok if batterys were not just a possible racket,i think.

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EVs are because we are running out of cheaply extractable oil globally. We have to switch to something else or at least have something we can switch to in order to keep opec from boycotting us again. Which kills the economy and requires trillions in bail out money. It is cheaper to start to switch now then to wait until there is a huge problem. The earlier we start the longer we can stretch out the timeline. And the better the products will be. But you didn’t get anywhere without trying.

I’m fairly environmentally conscious.

95% of lead acid batteries get recycled. There is no reason why it’s can approach that number for lithium. I didn’t even know if we will end up with lithium. It could change in 10 years.

If you are looking at who controls what. Most really need gas or diesel for every refuel. With EVs you get the battery for the life of the battery. And can charge with solar or whatever you want to make. I think there is less control and oversight.

Last if we eliminate the Fossil fuel delivery lines we also eliminate the subsidies for those which can be used for the electric grid to make it more reliable.

And yeah there are problems especially when you get outside suburbia and some retards are talking about deep decarbonization when we don’t have the technology and infrastructure yet.

To top that off we aren’t sure if FFs are the cause of the issue. They certainly don’t help, but there are other things that could be happening as well.

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I agree that the sonner we get switched over to battery car with 10 year warrentee it would add up in fuel saving in long run-if all the millitarys jets dont burn up all the petro first. THE end is not yet fear not though. WARS and RUMMERS of WARS. IT would be nice to have electric vehicle affordable though,maybe sooner than later, hopfully. AT leiste we have are inbert or WK gasifiers up and working.

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They don’t help, unless you happen to eat plants and the animals that eat them. You can plot temperature versus CO2 and see them rise “together.” You can plot agricultural production on that same graph. Funny thing, food production follows right along. If you’re concerned about food shortages, CO2 is your friend, not your enemy. Funny detail, temperature rises, then CO2, even in Al Gore’s famous plot. I’m not saying CO2 and temperature are the only things changing, but if someone tries to tell you CO2 is killing the planet, they should be able to explain why the “cause” is following the “effect.” And why more food is bad. I have an idea why more food might be bad, but I don’t enjoy going there.

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Yup, batteries are the weak point in EVs. This has been true even since the early 1900s. Toyota, Mazda and Subaru agree with you. I think internal combustion engines are not going away anytime soon.
Rindert

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Toyota, Mazda, Subaru Develop New High-Tech Engines For Diverse Fuels

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There is no rule that says we all need to use the same energy storage solution for vehicles. Whether it be wood, electric, gas, diesel, ethanol, etc.

The main advantage electric has is everyone already needs it, and most already have it. It isn’t up to a gas station on whether they carry it or not.

Batteries will come down in price. I don’t know how much or how fast they will improve. I personally think 5minute charging is essential for widespread ev use. but they still work especially for people that don’t drive over the 300 mile range and can charge at home.

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Sorry JO but I need to give my opinion here. Our EV charges in 20-30 minutes. More then fast enough if you just spend 3-4 hours behind the wheel. The same with range , but that depends mostly on your daily need. 300 miles is nice but (real) 300 km is enough for met. I can count on one hand the times I drive more then 300 km a day during a year. If you need more range think about moving to your work or change job. In my opinion totally useless ( says someone from a poststamp country ). I like driving but it is just a waste of time.

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Traveling issues are less of a problem. It has more to do with people that can’t charge at home. They live in rented places. Expecting people to wait 20 minutes at a charging station to fill up, when it used to only take 5 minutes is a bit of a change.

Also it increases through put at the charging station so even if you are next in line it is only a 5 minute wait. And you need far fewer charging stations installed.

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I feel like @Jan :smile: I had a moment to spare this evening - so, I went for some fuel hunting.

Also, to quote Wayne - I haven’t posted much lately, but been driving on wood almost daily.
I hurt my knee a couple weeks back - so this fuel hunt is pretty much the first excersize I get in a while and the sweat was pouring. No wonder - it’s 70F+ :smile: , but to my defence humidity is high over here late summer.
Chunked the small batch when got back home. I may have posted similar pics in the past :smile:

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Last picture:
“Fergie has raised his eyes high and is looking hungrily at all this food that others will devour, …” :grinning::grin:

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Haha Tone, I get your message. I’ve been daydreaming about installing the Rabbit gasifier, but then again it’s a gasoline tractor with very low compression and I sometimes need all the power it can deliver on gasoline. It does only maybe 10-15 hours of work a year and I don’t find it worth the effort to convert it. Also, maintaining the two woodburners I already have is time consuming enough.

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With the fergie on wood you need more hours in the woods and you can go with smaller loads. Plus, who says you have turn it off? :joy:

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JO, I know you already said that, don’t be harsh, it was just a joke, I couldn’t resist the temptation when I saw Fergi in the background, well, recently Goran published a way to test the tightness of the gasifier with water on to tactor Fergie. :grinning::grin:

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Tone, you may remember I did it the other way around once - fotgot about the hose and filled the gasifier with water all the way up to the nozzles - charbed and all :tired_face:

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Ha, a few years back I would probably have done just that. I felt I couldn’t get enough woodgas time and looked for every excuse to light up and go for a spin - wether it was needed or not :smile:

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