Those bushes are concidered weeds here, they grow so fast. Never knew they are edible??? Thank you so much!
It seems extracting the acid wuld be possible for citric acid substitute?
Edit on grapes, we are looking at record harvests this year.
Those are a extremely hardy and resiliant voriety called Clinton. No dubt thew wuld grow in Sweden.
And look what l found, a blackbird nest right in the vines. Good spot, its like l wuld live in a all you can eat restaurant 
Read the berries are used in cooking in the Middle East. Grinded down to a powder.
Edit: I think you’re right. I heard about Clinton grapes.
I remeber as a kid, having red sumac drink. we mixed it with other fruit juices to give them a kick. I think the idea came from the old euelll gibbons book.
Keep in mind that this called poison sumac and can cause a reaction like poison ivy. A friend was pulling sumac up with a chain and tractor. His wife was handling the pulled up bushes and ended up swollen beyond recognition.
Bruce the white flowers are the poisonous kind. The red are safe. I have a ton of red around here and have pulled it up by hand alot.
Dan, OK, Thanks for the clarification.
I’d been hit or miss with my raspberries for a while until I ran into the
University of Maine’s pruning videos. If you have or are planning a raspberry patch
this is the best info I have found. Just enter, University of Maine raspberries for more
videos.
The following great video is from that site and a few others about raspberries are also on the site.
Pruning raspberries and blackberries is crystal to success. My grandfather was relentless to the point I thought he would cut them all out but we always had tons of them when I was a kid. Now all that is left here is a big wild mess I brush hog once a year to knock it down a little.
That’s good info in that video. Lots of work too, best suited to a smaller patch.
I have heard of a management method for larger stands, mowing down every other row every second year in the fall. That will ensure an even aged stand, eliminating the need to prune out dead canes. Then pruning would be limited to thinning after year 1. Edges could be kept in check with a lawn mower or brush mower.
red sumac berries here make a lemonade flavored drink. High in Vit-C. folks use it like vitamin c drink packs.
Dan, as long as you’re mowing them down maybe you can salvage them by leaving a 1 foot row of plants with a 3 foot wide
aisle. Then cut out the dead plants(last years). What should be left are the fruiting canes (bearing this year). The new growth starting in these same rows will become the fruiting canes for next year. Right after you harvest this years fruit you can cut these canes out, they’re done. The plants that remain will fruit next year and the cycle repeats. Yes, it’s a pain to get it straightened out, but just keep thinking about the taste of homegrown raspberries free from commercial poisons! Here’s my start on organizing my own “mess”.
The new (short) canes seen here will be next years fruiting canes. I’ll post some pics after I harvest this years berries
and cut out the old bearing canes leaving the new fruiting canes for next year.
At some point I would like to sort it out right now I just want to brush hog enough so they don’t take over the old pasture before I build a new fence and put my cows out there. Brush hogging them once or twice a year doesn’t really slow them down much and it is already an area about 120 feet long by 20 feet wide or wider. This old farm has become very overgrown and I have to focus on one problem at a time and limiting things from getting much worse…
Camp starts tomorrow (old video but still shows what we do)
Cool camp. With exception of the indian dancing, I think every boy in America should learn all those skills. It would make for a far more “competent” society. Looks like fun! Where’d they find a deer that time of year? Have lots of fun wolfman.
I like the sign-language trading segment. I will, however, never make a great provider of fresh meat. I guess it depends on the need! Thanks for sharing!
For some reason I couldn’t log in for the past 2 weeks. This is the first post I looked at. I am very fortunate. The 40 acres I live on is FULL of wild strawberries and raspberries. The other 40 is where the Maple and Birch trees are.
The raspberries we have are protected. They are very well protected by mosquitoes. This year, I’m protected. I bought a geeky looking hat with a net that drapes down to my shoulders. It worked very well when the wife and I picked dandelions and spruce tips for making jelly. We used lavender oil on our hands and wrists. What a difference!
Our raspberries are just now flowering. So I imagine we have another month or so before we can harvest. The wild roses are in full bloom right now and they are next on the list to make jelly out of.
Here are the jellies we’ve made so far and are good sellers at the farmer’s market this year. Most people haven’t heard of any of these and want samples. After they taste them, we have them hook, line and sinker. One lady tasted our dandelion jelly this week and said, “It tastes like sunshine!”
I told my Sister that, who lives in California and she said, “I want sunshine in a jar.” Hahaha We don’t make the money like I did owning a company but I sure enjoy this. There are many rewards.
“Hahaha We don’t make the money like I did owning a company but I sure enjoy this. There are many rewards.” : Bill Schiller, June 2018
Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
Proverbs 15:17, KJV
you’ve figured it out Bill.
Discovered freedom…priceless.
We’re finally about ready to be out of winter here. It’s finally staying over 90 degrees.
Almost just right.
I tried to find a thread that this would fit in, but most of the closest ones were closed so, since I don’t know where else to put this I’ll stick it here. If someone wants to move it to a better spot that’s fine by me.
I found this article to be interesting & possibly enlightening on the subject of how and why the oceans are filling up with plastic.
Reminds me a little of looking in an Office Max dumpster. Every time you look there are hundreds of “recycled” printer cartriges. People take them to the store to do their civic duty and recycle, and the vast majority of them get thrown in the dumpster…
We’ve been looking into trying to convert plastics back to some kind of useful oil here at ADAPTech. (open to ideas by the way if anyone has any)
Anyway, here it is:
Save The Oceans - Stop Recycling Plastic
Recycling Plastic Is Making Ocean Litter Worse
London 28 June: An explosive report from the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) reveals that efforts to recycle plastic are a major cause of the marine litter problem. The report, written by public health expert Dr Mikko Paunio, sets out the case for incinerating waste rather than trying to recycle it.
Most of the plastic waste comes from just a few countries, mostly in Asia and Africa.
25% is “leakage” from Asian waste management processes — the rest is waste that has never been collected, but is simply thrown into rivers.
But European countries ship inject huge quantities of waste into Asian waste management streams, ostensibly for recycling. As much as 20% — millions of tons every year — ends up in the oceans and will continue to do so.
Since the Chinese banned waste imports at the start of the year, shipments have been diverted to other Asian countries with even weaker environmental controls (Figure 1).
EU recycling is therefore a major contributor to marine waste and increasing recycling will therefore simply increase marine litter.
Author Dr Mikko Paunio says
“It is clear that the European contribution to marine waste is a result of our efforts to recycle. However, several countries have already shown that they can reduce this contribution to near zero, by simply incinerating waste”.
Despite this success, the EU is trying to redouble recycling efforts and to close down the incineration route, mistakenly believing that this will reduce carbon emissions. As Dr Paunio puts it,
“The effects look as though they will be appalling. We can expect a great deal more plastic to end up in the environment, and in the oceans in particular. If the EU was serious about its war against marine pollution it should consider banning the export of plastic recyclate rather than banning plastic straws or taxing incineration.”
Figure 1: UK plastic waste exports, 2017 versus 2018. Source: British Plastic & Rubber
The title may sound odd to ordinary people, but the sad fact is that the global “recycling” industry has significantly added to the marine plastic litter problem.
I have put recycling in quotes, because only a small fraction of plastic recovered from consumers is actually recycled: the material collected is dirty and so mixed up that it is impossible to produce the high-quality raw material required by, for example, the food-packaging industry. Most recovered plastic is simply burned or dumped: on land, in rivers, or even directly in the oceans.
Unable to recycle waste in line with the targets imposed on them, rich countries have chosen to dump it — plastic, paper and cardboard — on poor ones, especially China. Lower environmental standards in much of Asia has made it cheaper to manage waste there and low-quality recycled plastic can sometimes be profitably produced from these waste streams, albeit in highly polluted conditions.
In recent years, the stream of waste delivered to China expanded vastly. Annual imports reached 85 million tons, including 8 million of plastic. The quantity was so huge that inspection at ports became impossible, and the unscrupulous found that even mixed or hazardous waste could profitably be sent, disguised as “recycling” to avoid landfill tax or high management costs in rich countries. Unable to handle this tsunami of refuse, the Chinese were forced to either burn or dump vast quantities. An unknown amount found its way to the oceans.
The consequences for the environment and for public health of this “recycling” madness have therefore been horrendous, and have ultimately proved too high for the Chinese, who have now banned waste imports entirely. Recent figures suggest that recycling businesses in the UK have responded by simply shipping waste to Asian countries with even weaker environmental standards. So even more waste will end up in the oceans in future.
Meanwhile, the EU is doing almost nothing to reduce the flow of waste. It is sticking to its idealistic environmental dreams, claiming to be in the forefront of efforts to save the oceans through a “circular economy” strategy. History tells a different story — efforts to focus on recycling have led to one environmental disaster to another, with the ocean plastic crisis being just the latest.
Readers may recall the waste crisis in the Italian region of Campania, which was overwhelmed by so-called “ecoballs” — the two-thirds of plastic waste that was rejected by its sorting facilities. The streets were awash with rubbish, dioxins spread across the region, and the eventual breakdown of public order.
It should be understood that all recycling schemes – including paper recycling — leak either plastic litter or microplastic to the environment. If we truly care about saving the oceans, then recycling of plastic and paper should stop. And there is a clear and sensible alterative available, namely incineration. Incineration was the way Campania put its waste management system back on an even keel. It is also the basis of the waste management strategy of many EU countries, and as such has proven to be hugely successful on all measures.
Yet despite this clear superiority to other approaches, incineration is being dismissed and discouraged, by EU politicians and bureaucrats, but most importantly by the unholy alliance of “recyclers” and green NGOs, who together lobby for ever-more complicated recycling schemes. If the EU was serious about its war against marine pollution it should consider banning the export of plastic waste rather than banning plastic straws.
As someone once said, “Where there’s muck, there’s brass”. Unfortunately, as far as recycling is concerned the price is paid, not just by ordinary consumers, but by the oceans and the rest of the natural environment.
Dr Mikko Paunio is a Finnish public health specialist and an adjunct professor in general epidemiology at the University of Helsinki. He is the author of the new GWPF paper Save The Oceans – Stop Recycling Plastic
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I wounder if plastic waist melted too chunks could be mixed in wood gasified vehicles too make a much cleaner way too keep oceans clean, in Waynes Keiths, Univetsity, gasifier test he gasified a roll of trash bags with his wood and made a little differnt mixture of carbon fuel , but was still better emisions than gasoline petro FUEL.?
