Rezistent species, better say rezistent hybrid varieties, are modern varities of grapevine, developed by cross breeding between “noble” european grapevine Vitis vinifera and “wild” species of Vitis originating in America and Asia. Actually, modern varieties are offsprings in long chain of crossbreeding dating back into mid of 19th century. We presented four of them: Hibernal, Solaris, Saphira and Souvignier gris. All four share the same grand grand father in their pedigree - Rheinriesling. Other common feature is rezistence against main funghi deseases and frosts as well.
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Yes then this is the thing l was hoping to hear. Glad you too have a tradition of growing them. This is the “weak wine” told about in the above post. Its the traditional wine made on preety much every homestead. But it was only recently made legal to sell it, and was ilegal to even grow some worietys for a while, the official reason being the wine contained methanol. The real reason was there isnt much profit for the chemical industry if you grow plants that dont require any treatment…
Anyways, this is the only grapevine l will ever grow. I had a small vinyard at the old place, planted it my self by propagating from cutings. Im currently doing the same.
The new place still has some severely overgrown and neglected reminence of a winyard with a few surviving vines, best analisis l was able to get was its a woriety called Gamay, perhaps you know it?
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So they are mixed with wild grapes like Muscadine? They are really high in antioxidants and make for a very high alcohol content in wines. Makes a good brandy from what I’ve been told. We have a few wild vines I’ve been trying to train onto lattices.
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Surely do I know a Gamay 
. Its old French variety, mostly grown in region Beaujolais, where it makes famous Nouveau wine, comming to the tables every third Thursday in November. Beside Nouveau thes produce classic wines out of it, some of them highly valued for ther fresh and fruity character with light but broad body.
Regarding your own wine, I suppose you are talking about variety named Charvat, which is Slavic synonym for variety Noah. This one was crossbreeded in USA directly from wild vines Riparia and Labrusca, which gives to Noah specific taste. The content if methanol is not fake, it is proofed by chemical analysis. The cause for highwr content of methanol is high content of pectin in berries, which easily take path to the methanol during fermentation. You can’t poison yourself by drinking even whole bottle, but long term consumation if wrongly fermented wine might have health consequences. If you drink it all your life, its proof you are skilled winemaker 
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And if you die young—not so skilled?
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Yes exactly! I admire your knolidge sir!
So you say its a good idea to clone the old Gamay vines huh 
will do!
I do not know the name of that grape as, apart from Gamay, they all have different names here. But l think its the one. Its known to be hard to pick since berrys like to fall off. Is it the one?
Anyways, what you say is true. Bigest problem was in the old ways of producing wine, stems mashed with the juice and skins for up to 14 days! All the pectines had time to ferment but still even this way still wasnt nearly as bad as some thod. With todays methods of winemaking and not mashing for too long tge amounts of methanol are almost non existant.
This wine is rarely made pure. Only for medicinal purposes as its advised for people with digestive problems.
Its usualy mixed with other worietys, each brings something in. Clinton brings colour, also there is a extremely aromatic grape l also dont know its English name.
Edit: this wine mix is called “the trenchroller” 
its light and extremely drinkable, but once it does kick in you roll in the trench
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Going to try my hand at harvesting from all the black walnut trees on the property. Guides say to wait until you can leave an indentation in the husk while it is still green.
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Yes, @ForbiddenTuna , you are right. Muscadine, or Vitis Rotundifolia is another species of american wild vines, domestic to south-east part of USA.
Unfortunately, Muscadine belongs to specific subgenus of Vitis which is generally not compatible for crossing with other species in the other subgenus. So very few hybrids between european vine and Muscadine do exists.
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A glass of wine would have went well with today’s hard earned lunch!
On the lake at 6am, beautiful sunrise!
Dandy black crappie for me and a dandy white crappie for the wife, kids tried to fill the boat with yellow perch all morning long but nothing big enough to keep
Little bit of Louisiana fish fry and peanut oil for some fried crappie sandwiches the boys really enjoyed them!
Edit for more pictures
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I was watching Gordan Ramsy uncharted last night, the episode he was in Portugal and they had a strange method of vine management. They were all planted in sand? I did a little reading on it and some 200 years ago there was a blight or something that came through and killed off most of the ancient vines, but the blight was unable to travel through the sands not far off the beach so the locals took to growing there vines right on the ground in the sand. They get propped up just to be harvested and set back down. Colares I believe it was called?
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That is quite the cloud cap picture over Mount Rainer, Marcus.
Even lost-it’s-top Mount Saint Helens will do this too. Pileus form.
Regards
Steve Unruh
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Even if the fish bite is crap, the view is always worth getting up early to see. My favorite part of morning fishing
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Tried to use my electric log splitter. I can tell this thing just hates oak with the current wedge it has. I’ve seen some videos of guys welding narrow axe heads to the current wedges to focus the pressure on a thinner point. Might try my hand at that. My only problem is I don’t wanna sacrifice one of my axe heads to do it! Might check the Horror Fright during lunch tomorrow if they have any super cheapo hatchet heads for sale. It’ll take down the overall length that it can split, but I’m already chopping the logs into short stacks anyways.
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Oak can be a absolute bear to split in the best of conditions, at least the variety we have up here in the Pacific northwest. Iv been hand splitting Doug fir, alder, big leaf maple, pine and hemlock my whole life for house heat, but the few times I split oak it was wack (bounce)…huh…fire up the gas splitter. Let it take the beating instead of me. One time we took a short butt log maybe five foot off a job the homeowner wanted made into split rail fence for a small yard feature, I lost patience very quickly hammering wedges into it, then dad broke a maul handle. Then a sledge hammer handle.coulsnt get the fro to stick in it. Ya that idea went out the window and we split some cedar for her and she was happy with that. We did take that log home though and I gave it to a local Sawyer who was happy to have it. Now I wonder what he made out of it, that was in my teenage years before I knew what oak was used for and how beautiful it can be as a finished wood
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Tell me about it. We have 5 felled oaks that were either about to be dead standing or were dead standing and threatening the house or power lines. Once you get the first split in, it’s like the log just gives up. I’m wondering if I took a bunch of short discs and just stack them up into the splitter will I get a bunch of chunks?
Hmmmmmm.
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Very nice pictures, I have never seen a cloud that looked like that.
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Try any yard sales you can find in the area. Tons of old axes with broken handles out there because our modern society finds it easier and probably cheaper to just buy a new one. I started making my own handles out of oak for the same reason it just seemed crazy to pay as much for a handle as I can buy a new tool and I can’t being myself to throw away a good head because the handle broke.
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I would suggest cutting the oak in half with a chain saw then let the half rounds sit in the sun for about a month to dry and crack it will split alot easier once it gets some drying cracks going. Or find someone with a sawmill…
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Cody,
Someone I know does cut sweet gum into short discs before splitting. Sweet gum is much more difficult to split than oak.
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This is the probably at least 50 year old vineyard thats not beed touched for the last 30 years, the Gamay l told about. Hope l can get enaugh cuttings from it for a few dozzen plants
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