Sponsorship request

I have someone in the EU who would like to get a Premium membership. We can’t sell directly to the EU, due to a 2015 VAT tax law (see more here: 2015 Digital VAT Tax)

One workaround is to find a sponsor in the US or anywhere outside the EU. I can send a gift membership anywhere in the world with no tax implications. How and if the sponsor and recipient exchange value outside of this is none of my concern… As far as DOW is concerned, the customer is the sponsor, and not in the EU.

As a reminder, if we can get this done by Feb 1, the discount code FORUM30 will apply, for 30% off.

If someone can help out, message me directly. Thanks!

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Hello,
I’m an EU member who would like to become a premium member.

To give you some background, I live in Belgium and want to produce electricity using wood from my property to become energy self-sufficient.

After a lot of research, I came across your community and was fascinated.

Unfortunately, I can’t subscribe directly, so I hope one of you will be willing to help me and will, of course, be compensated.

Thank you in advance,

David Pirotte

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Welcome David!
You will be busy for a long time digesting free information on this site while waiting for a premium membership. There are tons of material already available.
What setup to go with depends a lot on your personal circumstances - what equipment you already have - not only fabrication tools, but fuel prep equipment, storage capacity and so on. Tell us a bit more and we are more than willing to steer you in the right direction.

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Welcome to the DOW DavidP.
The fact that you can post up an input means you are a registered member with access to 14 years of accumulated, expressed, and pictured knowledges.
Some active here have chosen not to become Premium Members. What do they miss? Access to the evolved internal details on Wayne Kieths system. And details and pictures of others building off of his, and Chris Saenz’s WK systems book.
This system was evolved and designed for high-speed, hi-way traveling, down to slow speed city driving.
What does Wayne Kieth winter heat his house with? Not a wood gasifier. A bulk raw wood stove. What did he woodgas fuel his little electrical generator with when USA touring to be able to with electric saws cut found wood to re-fuel his truck gasifier system? His large engine pulled up hot, and working, woodgas truck gasifier.

I’ve busted ass for 16 years pursuing different small woods gasifiers for stationary electrical generators for home electrical power. Look under the stack papers top bar tool Icon for the “Small Engines” category for mine, and others, systems attempts.
Ha! Any one of the vehicle guys can laugh at these . . . just electrical generator fueling off of their actually working daily commuter vehicle wood gasifier systems. Many of these only having four cylinder engines. Their system are NOT WK’s. But DIY mixed-systems designs.
All of this is now open access to you. Months sorting through, reading; and viewing the 14 years of accumulations now.

What are the real tangible befits to Premium side membership?
All of the fellows there are darn serious about practical today things.
No woo-woo; futurist; maybe-someday; crapola gets discussed.
Instead huge amounts of the other 75% of effort making a woodgasifier system; any system, actually daily working in Operator encouragements, details, and experiences.
This last is brought over to the open membership side but often gets buried behind the woo-woo; futurists, and idealisms, discussions.

To get someone to step forward and take the risk sponsoring you; you will have to make yourself known with your current wood-for-your-homestead energy activities. Then someone will see the value in taking a risk on you.
How? Easy. We are northern hemisphere into the winter heating system.
Show yourself heating with wood.

I’m 73 now and have weakened and just did not get in enough wood early enough, to by fully dried and seasoned. Now I’m having to make-do with the too wet of wood I do have. I’ve had years experiences, of evolving to be able to do this. Benefit of lifetime living in a temperate rainforest.
I’ve explained this in my last Summer of 2025 (Fall time) posts. And now my Winter of 2025 posts.


Having to in-house crib stack, and dry down the wood for just-in-time usage. Then still having to forced burn up all of my in-stove made wood charcoal to produce the heat energy to deal with all of the excessive wood moisture I am bringing into the house.
Forced so firebox hot, that I no longer get soft fluffy wood ash. I am getting fuzed melted silica clinkers.
Just what you will fight in a small engine wood charcoal gasifer! See-it. Believe-it.

So . . . show your efforts and results: “show your wood fuel piles” and someone will step forwards for sponsorship.
Could be me . . . . after April/May. I have to financially finished up with this years Foreign Exchange student.
Regards
Steve Unruh

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Well said Steve, I hope and pray your wood supply will last until you can shut the stove down for the season.

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Welcome to the forum David.
I don’t know your experience or background but from my own perspective and learning curve I’d say that it takes quite a bit of reading to understand woodgassing enough to some degree comprehend the differences between a WK’s, Imberts and all the other styles of gasifiers, the details and the reasons behind that particular style, the why’s and why not’s and so on. (The same goes for the differences between other styles too)
So from that viewpoint, as others have said, many many hours of reading is already avaliable now to get you started. Plus, as you probably have found, there’s a library too.
Oh, and one thing I didn’t know when I started reading is that you can bookmark posts and topics while you read (press the three dots under the post and the bookmark ‘button’ appears)
This was perhaps obvious to everyone else when they started out except me but I thought it is worth mentioning, it is very useful :blush:

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Hi Johan,
Thanks for the welcome!
My experience with wood gas is about three weeks of reading. Yes, I’m a novice. But not so novice after all, because I found you :slight_smile:
Just so you know, without wanting to brag, I learn very quickly when I’m motivated.

I’m sure that with your help, in a few months, I’ll know which gasifier to choose.
And in a few years (I promised my girlfriend I wouldn’t abandon the rest of the project), I’ll have built a gasifier to produce electricity and heat my house.

David

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Hello Steve,
Thank you for this excellent introduction.
I completely understand your point of view regarding the woodpile. I’ve always heated with wood. I’m 34 years old and I took over the family home.
At first, it was just a small supplement, but for over 15 years now, it’s been a wood-fired boiler with a 2000-liter buffer tank (the water then circulates through the radiators).
This boiler is a modern one; it burns the gases and coal completely, leaving only a little ash.
One fire a day is enough to heat the house (about ten logs) at -10°C for example (I’ve already insulated a good part of the house).
Speaking of insulation, my studies and experience could help you if you’d like.

I’d be happy to show you my woodpile and the equipment I have if you’re interested.
I also have a small wooded area next to the house (deciduous trees) and 2 hectares in the village, a 15-minute drive away by tractor (deciduous and some coniferous trees).
If I’m careful, it’s an inexhaustible source of wood for my needs.

Regarding the referral, I don’t want to take advantage of your kindness or your money; it’s just that I don’t know how to make the payment directly.
However, I do want to earn your trust because, from what I’ve read, you all seem like wonderful and caring people.
I hope I can help you in return.

David

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For building the gasifier, I currently have my ten fingers, which I hope will be up to the task.
For welding, I bought a MIG welder from a friend, and I already had an arc welder. I’m not an expert welder, but my friend is willing to teach me and participate in the project.
I also have all the small hand and power tools a good handyman would need.
For the construction, I was thinking of making an efficient and easy-to-maintain gasifier. I haven’t decided yet whether to use recycled containers or have the parts laser-cut (we have everything we need close at hand).
However, for the engine, I’d like to salvage the gasoline engine from my partner’s old car, a 2003 Opel Corsa C. For power generation, the batteries will store the electricity. Approximately 10 kWh would be sufficient for 3 hours.

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Hello Jan-Ola, thank you so much for your welcome.

I hope you understand, as I’m using a translator. I have a basic understanding of English, but it’s not enough.

I’ve already read a few threads, but I must admit it’s a lot of information to take in all at once.
What surprises me most is your kindness and resourcefulness.

So, as I mentioned in my previous message, I’d like to produce electricity using wood to meet the 1000 kWh shortfall I have over the year (during the winters).
I currently have 30 410 kWp solar panels, a 12 kW hybrid inverter with backup power, 40 kW of lithium batteries, two small 350 W turbines, and a 14 kVA diesel generator.
I also have a wood-fired boiler and a 2000 L buffer tank.

The goal is to produce electricity with wood and use the heat from the cooling system to heat the water in my 2000l tank.

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hello david, welcome in the forum…woodgas is high school in gasifying…i am only a charcoal gas maker, but it works great for me…when you look at my topics you can see a lot of stuff shown in pictures and explained…charcoal is more for beginners because of its more or less simplicity…when you get bored from dirty black hands, than woodgas is the right step…
ciao giorgio

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Electricity generator on chargas - Projects - Drive On Wood!

here a example where tone from slovenia me helped a lot with the electric part of the project…

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David, I’m wondering why you think you need a premium subscription to enjoy this site. The level of access already offered to all subscribers with a basic subscription seems perfectly adequate to me. I’m a retired research and development technician specializing in CAD design and toolmaking, a field I don’t boast about because I prefer to avoid being bombarded with questions about manufacturing. However, given the urgency of an impending oil crisis, I’ve decided to freely share my knowledge with other like-minded individuals, fellow “preppers.” Being of Belgian descent myself (my great-grandfather was an immigrant who helped create jobs in the New England wool industry in the early 20th century), I encourage you to use the convenient translation tools and familiarize yourself with gasification technologies at your own pace, without feeling overwhelmed. I offer you this unique translation as a welcome to the forum, and I hope to participate more, even as I continue to manage my farming tasks in western Massachusetts, on a nine-acre farm, using tractors and generators from before 1970. I’m working on converting them to dual-fuel engines, and then fully gasified engines, prioritizing low-compression engines, particularly side-valve engines, to simplify the process and ensure the project’s success.

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David, je me demande pourquoi vous pensez avoir besoin d’un abonnement premium pour profiter de ce site. Le niveau d’accès déjà offert à tous les abonnés avec un abonnement de base me semble tout à fait suffisant. Je suis un technicien en recherche et développement à la retraite, spécialisé en conception CAO et en fabrication d’outils, un domaine dont je ne me vante pas car je préfère éviter d’être assailli de questions sur la fabrication. Cependant, face à l’urgence d’une crise pétrolière imminente, j’ai décidé de partager librement mes connaissances avec d’autres personnes partageant les mêmes idées, des « survivalistes ». Étant moi-même d’origine belge (mon arrière-grand-père était un immigrant qui a contribué à la création d’emplois dans l’industrie lainière de la Nouvelle-Angleterre au début du XXe siècle), je vous encourage à utiliser les outils de traduction pratiques et à vous familiariser avec les technologies de gazéification à votre rythme, sans vous laisser submerger. Je vous offre cette traduction unique en guise de bienvenue sur le forum et j’espère y participer davantage, même si je continue à gérer mes tâches agricoles dans l’ouest du Massachusetts, sur une ferme de neuf acres, avec des tracteurs et des générateurs d’avant 1970. Je travaille à les convertir en moteurs bicarburant, puis entièrement gazéifiés, en privilégiant des moteurs à faible compression, notamment des moteurs à soupapes latérales, afin de simplifier le processus et d’assurer la réussite du projet.

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Just a reminder to all, please make your posts in English. We respect all languages, but we need a common readable language for all to use on this site. Google translate does a remarkable job. Some are using automatic translation from English to their chosen language already, so a consistent input language (English) is beneficial.

I translated the previous post, but left the original as well out of respect for the poster.

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A question, should I try to translate the text in pages like this that I linked to?
I think my English is too bad for this, maybe it’s better not to post such information?

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For pages you link to, I would leave that up to the individual to translate. I’m just trying to keep the language on dow consistent so that it can easily be translated.

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Thank you very much for the response DavidP.
You build confidence in your ability to do the “grunt” work using bulky low density wood for any source of power.

Your whole home wood fired hydronic system . . . . Yes. Please do show this. Ha! Ha! Wood piles and wood prepping equipments too.
Others such as J.O., TomH. and I believe Tone have made these up too for whole home heating.

Woodgas “cooling” heating of your home heating water??? Not enough or high enough quality/quantity of heat energy to not just cool down your water.
Engine exhaust could.
Stationary your very best benefit would be using the woodgas cooling heat; the engine cooling heat; the engine exhaust cooling heats to be able to in-Fall/Winter/early Spring be able to forced air dry down as-harvested wood to an Ideal 10% moisture content. Something the vehicle guys can only partially effective do.

Woodstove; wood furnace; wood gasifier when fed true 10% moisture fuelwood stock then the systems can be made up very simple. Give the best efficiency results. Requiring the least use maintenances.
Everybody always runs short of the perfect summer solar dried down wood fuels. Once you start woodgasifing you will be competing with your self for this seasonal dried wood. Home heating and domestic hot water must take priority.

Regards
Steve Unruh

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Hello Georgio,
Thank you for the advice.
I would like to create a single device if possible, and perhaps modify it slightly. That’s why I’d like to get as close as possible to my goal with a device that runs on wood.
I assume that if it works with wood, it will also work, and even more easily, with charcoal.
David

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Hello Pierre,
Thank you for the translation and the warm welcome.
I’d like to get a fairly quick result so I can disconnect from the grid and be completely self-sufficient.
I already have several projects underway with my 3D printer, home automation, and various other projects in and around the house.

I think that by becoming a premium member I’ll get maximum support because, with all your combined expertise, I’m sure it’s possible to create a fantastic gasifier. And it will also allow me to support your community.

David

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Hi Steve,
I see you’re very enthusiastic about my wood and machinery. I’ll try to take some photos tomorrow, in the snow, as we had 30cm of it over the weekend. The gasifier is necessary for electricity production; I only want to recover the heat because I don’t like waste, and I gathered from reading some of your posts that you feel the same way.
The domestic hot water is heated with a thermodynamic water heater (consuming 3kW per day). The heating house system uses a boiler with excellent efficiency, thanks to the 2000L buffer tank, so adapting the gasifier shouldn’t require any major modifications.
I have some wood for drying, but I was thinking of drying any wood chips with the electricity produced in the summer, as I have more than I know what to do with from the solar panels.
David

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