Woodgas electricity and heating for a small community

It might be like that. For some people already being not only off-grid, but rather off-society in terms of self-sufficiency, this sounds like the truest true of the life. But to live inside, or rather depending on society, costs money. And if you do things on your own which are less profitable than to buy them, you actually losing. And one day, those money lost in this way may dearly miss in your budget.

Single and simple example. Let your consumption is 3,5 MWh/year. You need 3,5 tons of dry wood chips to get it out of your high-tech woodgas genset. The same amount of wood chips is 20 m3 of garden mulch sold on retail market for 40-60 €/m3. At least here. So unless your retail prices of electricity are more than 300 €/MWh, you would be better of if you sell the chips and buy electricity.

Looks not too interestig? Don’t make chips. Just put the wood into kiln like Kristijan’s Kursk 3.0 and get a ton of charcol with market price 1500 €. Then you can afford electricity for almost 500€/MWh. Or buy it for normal price of 200€ and end with 900€ in your pocket. For clothes, books, medicines, chemistry, tools, …

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What you say is true as far as gross numbers KamilK.

But then there is “slippage”, “shrinkages”. These are old true living Rural terms not ever more used even by modern Western English native speakers.

Using your example of wood harvesting off of your own land.
Here in my State when you harvest to make into firewood to sell for the money to buy the things, good and services more by-the-numbers efficient to buy verus self-make.
This is done mostly as a pop-up sale (modern term). Here I am today. I am gone tomorrow. This mean illegally to avoid the regulations and taxes that must be collected to pay for the regulators.
The same with offering up the foods home-made and grown of eggs; milk, meats. much inspections and regulation, then needing taxed to pay for the regulators and inspectors.

Vegetables are safe with minimal “shrinkage” only if you do not claim them to be Organic. Then Regulation require you to have on demand the book keeping and documented paper evidence for ALL inputs being true organic used in their growing and production.
Honey made for sale is has still minimal “shrinkages”.

And to outside of your own personal use sell any of these including wood products you can only get buyers for the most attractive portions. Have to burn-off, bury, let sit to rot accumulations of not perfect portions that will exceed your own needs and ability to use up.

So instead of that waste I myself have at times just cut and split up perfect for boards trees and instead burnt them for personal heat and power.
Stuck in a societal trap of high base taxes on the land/property forced to outside work for the money to pay just to keep own a Grandfaters/Grandmother bequeathed down property. Taxes too high for any possibly to pay with anything the land can be made to produce.
The task then to outside work at a trade, a profession that will allow the time to be able to work your land enough for personal consumption’s and use!
This is many on the DOW, YES.

This goes on long enough and a fellow begins to hope for the grinding wheels to actually come off of the current society and a massive re-set to take place.
Charlie Chaplins presentation in his moving picture, “Modern Times”.

These world-peace fleets of military might ships the US supports is payed for on the back of all here.
No different actually then the massive public works projects of modern western Europe and Asia.
We are all enslaved to these elitist dreams. Their dream cannot be ever realized if the little wheels (you and me) would ever stop contributing support to them.
Just to be little bit self-made free is a Win. Take it. Savor it.
And part of the self-freeing is to adopt thinking generational Forwards instead as Maret proposes.
Steve Unruh

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You are right in your reasoning and make quite logical calculations… But only until the next economic crisis. Then everything collapses at once, the money doesn’t work, you can’t sell anything, you can’t buy anything, you can’t bring anything. The children are hungry, the wife is angry, you are all cold. And of course, the government and the state are to blame for everything! Although the government honestly and many times hinted to all people, and warned everyone that you shouldn’t sit exactly on your ass, but you need to do something with your self-sufficiency: with the help of the Great Depression, or by organizing the World Economic Crisis in 2008!

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Well said Veljko.
The framework of a sound plan.
Barter the skills needed for those who can produce but need their production further processed.

One of the surprising things about human people is how wide of range in true capabilities we all vary.
For some few all things are possible to learn and do well.
For some few learning to do just one thing well is the challenge.
Most in the bell curve in between these extremes.

Never overlook the the person who can only master one skill. You may need that skill. Allowing you to master another much more difficult. And they need that skill acknowledgment to show their self-worth.
Never allow the can-do-anything person to become pre-dominate arrogant. No one person can possibly have the time in the day, the week, a lifetime to be self standing all-providing.

Judge people by their honestly using to their best: their abilities and talents.
And the time to pursue useable skills learning will alway be today.
S.U.

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People are used to think in terms of money and profit, but that may suddenly evaporate. I 'm not sure why I said ‘may’ :slight_smile:

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OK, Marat. For that case, you are right. In that case you actually do not try to compete with the utility prices so we are not discussing the case I stated above as

You and @SteveUnruh have excellent arguments, but for the case of self-sufficiency. And that’s a stake, for which you have to sacrifice many other things. It might by good to live that way. I really admire people who could. But I hope that everybody see that we all can’t live that way and if we try, our civilization will cease to exist by blink of an eye.

Look at @mveljko78 plan. They want feed their mouths by online jobs. First at hand to disapper during catastrophe. Sell the electricity to neighbours. For flour? Do they have mills? Are they connected? Are they willing to buy, if mill could run on human/animal force? Is that self-sufficiency at all?

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Well after waiting to hear how you are going to progress along with your dream of maybe powering 20 homes within your community and reading posts from people that think things out maybe a lot better than i do , then i still think that it is possible by making each home responsible for making there own power might be the best way to start off
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2 years ago the area that i live in was hit by extreme high winds , we live in a high bush area dense Forrest on mountain hill side , over 3,000 residence without power most for around 4 weeks yes the worst hit homes had no power for 4 weeks and also no internet or phone lines dozens of houses flattened by tree’s roads cut off a real mess, my power came back on after 8 days i think , but the guy next door it took them another 3 weeks before he got power and 8 weeks before internet .
In that time i had the worst face pain ever as someone forced me to eat a whole bloody shopping bag of lemons , due to the fact that within 2 mins of losing power i had thrown the switch on the bypass contactor and was running the house off batteries that evening , the next day was a low solar day so i fired up the gasifier and generator and ran for around 5 hours that day , then later on in the afternoon i coupled 3 long extension chords together along with a powered on line internet from my wireless 5G home router and then provided power for lights and tv and computer for my neighbor for the next 4 weeks , my power came back on within 8 days but my neighbor’s house is fed from a different sub station and so without help from me he would have been like the thousands of other running generator’s day and night .
It is hard work , but i know for fact it can be done and it can also be done as part of a daily routine like lighting the fire for heat or cooking and gathering up the coals to use for the gasifier to add to the stock that you make on evening’s while sat around the camp fire or the weekend lets make fuel get together party .
Think small and then multiply it x 20
Dave

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I understand your position and your point is well taken. I think you would have had to be part of the so-called counter culture in the late 1960’s to early 1970’s to see how many ways the wheels could fall off. Millions of young people all with high ideals, very few skills and mostly as dumb as a doorknob, all thinking they were in someway superior. Stoned has that effect on most people. . By the late 1970’s the ones with educations were wearing suits and ties and working as financial advisors or some other parasidic occupation. The others were slugging it out in some mind numbing blue collar job. Only a very small percentage kept the faith but they disappeared into the proverbial hills and only popped out for supplies attracting as little attention to themselves as possible because they were doing the one thing the power that be cannot not abide. People that at least try and operate life on their own terms. The last thing those Powers can tolerate is a renegade who may make people aware that in many overt and coverts ways they are still serfs in a feudal system. You have to think about this very hard, but the trappings of civilization are entirely designed to keep you under control. My dispute with your statement is that civilization will not cease because the reins of control are taken up by individuals rather than corporations and governments. Without them you will become healthier, stronger and cured from the mass mental illness we call modern society.

By the way. This discussion is making me happier than a puppy with two peters.

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Hurrah for you Dave.
A real true Noah’n.

Here. No reason for a true here-and-now guy like myself to not use the best of today for capabilities.
42F/6C this morning. Mighty cold contrasted to 86F/30C just two days ago. Brrr. Need house heating.
First toggle up the 21st Century tech controller:


Then get the coffee brew making in the very 21st Century Mr Coffee microprocessor controlled drip machine.
Next fire up; and get settling-in the very modern late 20th Century; 75% efficient secondary air burning; needs-no electricity bulk wood stove:

Ha! Ha! I done this morning sequence in the past to this point and then had the Grid power go out for 3 days.
Coffee transferred to an aluminum perk-pot onto the flat wood stove top.
Inverter-generator fired up to get the satellite TV going to watch the wide general news to get an idea what happened. And how long it could last.
Then the wife came out of her shower (tank stored electrically heated hot water) now mad, she could not electrically blow-dry her long washed wet hair.
Another cord into the bathroom. Handed her the running electric hair drier. That cord, later that day, transferred over to the foods refrigerator.

Ha! I’m a bit slow. Or lazy. I’d only have set up and running on woodgas the larger Inverter-generator at the 30 days mark. After burning off the majority of the use-it, or lose-it gasoline storage cycled, kept on-hand.

We live, like you a hybrid Life.
Drives the purists nuts, eh.

KamilK a few percentage going off grid, or insisting on personal self-reliance will not what make the wheels fall off of civilization.
Too bureaucracy layered; laws and regulations overburdening; over-sophisticated is what has tanked all previous civilizations.
When the many of the little wheels and gears folks no longer feel it benefits them anymore. They stop hamster-like wheels racing along. Let the barbarians in. Let the water works, sewage works, streets and food delivery service go neglected; fall into unusable.
S.U.

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Yes, we like bread. But all kinds of grains can be cooked and eaten like rice. You only need a pot. Cooking is also a survival skill.
You must not only plant wheat or just one crop of anything. Potatoes, yams, squash, maize … humans can live on many things. If one crop fails another will not. This is also better for your soil. There will usually be excess food, therefor animals. Here also variety is good. Cows, chickens, goats, pigs, geese … if one kind has an epidemic, another will not. So you will recreate all of agriculture. Imagine now how much you will have to learn.
My parents (language professors) bought an old farm house, in 1973. They were going to do many of the things you are talking about. But even though I was eight years old I could see they didn’t know what they were doing. I found a friend who’s father was a dairy farmer. Slowly I started to work on the farm. Over time I learned many things. Some people can never learn to farm. A good farmer requires about six years to learn how to manage a new piece of land. If you don’t make friends with other farmers you will not survive. I could make a very long list.
Rindert
P.S. If you have seen, and really understand, the movie ‘Mosquito Coast’ with Harrison Ford perhaps you will succeed.

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Amazing piece. I have seen it once but not full story. So I could hardly say I understand it. But for sure, it is very instructable for idea of self sufficience.

The other one about the matter might be “The Village”.

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Tom, my deep bow to your argues. You may lay on that I enjoy them as you do mine. Surely society will not fail if

There is no need to dispute it. Sometimes it is the only way how to prevail. What I am talking about is disappearing of services, for which you do not have relevant substitute if everybody must live just on their own hands power. Healthcare. Heavy industry. Machinery. Security. Finance. Culture. Science. Education. Many others. All these things create civilization. Let them disappear and grandsons of your grandsons will fight alone for bare life against the will of mother nature.

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Greetings Veljko, we both come from the former common country of Yugoslavia, well, in this area, a lot “happened” throughout history, there was a desire for unification, there was a desire for disunification,… it will probably be the same in “your” community. There are few people in the world who are ready to work hard, there are few people with calloused and dirty hands, but in “our” industry it is not possible without it, when I hear that you “earn” on the Internet, I become worried.

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Me and my coworker had the same discussion today :grinning:. What is real economics and what not. Difficult to explain to a puppy :grinning:.
Another thing is electronics. A friend of mine works at ASML. If he starts talking about multilayers and how things are fabricated….wow. But how sustainable is that industry if shtf? I dont want to think to much about it. Makes me depressed. Only observe. I saw a lot of destroyed machines in former Yugoslavia. What a waste. And who was the winner?

But you make me laugh Tom, I can really see you enjoying the 60/70.

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Shhh.
Let me tell you a live-in-the mountains secret out here where I live.
We form associations chains. Loose survival groups if you want to call them that.
Sometimes adjacent neighbors. But usually not.
Sometime blood relatives. But usually not.
How do you get in?
Be recognized as actually doing daily things to preserve you abilities to do daily needful things.
A vegetable garden.
Annually heating with wood.
Maintaining and having you own well. (That been an Ouch for us since the year 2000 and we were forced off of out well onto public water!)
Other things add up too. Annually food storage. Actually meals cooking from raw ingredients.
Using primarily daily body working and good foods and whatever will promote a steady mental health. That part varies a lot. Individual person. Age. Changing responsibilities. Religious preferences.

No formal meetings. No club houses. No charter.
Rules? General guidelines? Sure. Yeah. Never; unless under great duress, ask the Governments for help. Certainly not a hand-out. Decline their stimulus checks. Their rebates. If sent . . . send them back. Actually pay in more to them than a minimum tax.

And what do these frormed associations friendships give you?
When you do need help. Help is given freely. Help that is appropriate for your own living ethics.

Out associations groups in Yacolt has diminished greatly. Aging out and gone from this earth.
Gone to the city (SHITTY) due to developed heath concerns. Afaid to ride it out with the love of family and friends. Sold your soul to the real estate folks and now worshiping the $'s. Wanting more and more.
Not all of the new youth are totally bought-in. We do have a new family in Yacolt just to the South. And now another to the North. Sigh. They both wish to move politically farther away, out of State.
We want to endure our State, and hunker down. Ha! TomH’s remain hiding in plain sight folks.
Becoming from an another state; to the true Rural locals, and you are always an outsider.
Even after earned-in, accepted, be called; The Yankee, The Georgia Peach, the Texas shit-kicker. That fellow from Warsh-ing-ton.

So we are already being seen . . . and slowly making new associations where we’ve moved to. Two years in and we now have two. Both within walking distances. That is good enough.
Bicycling distances is what is effective and workable for mutual support. Drive to is O.K. if no more than 15 minutes and a cupful of fuel.

I say this all specifically for you Veljko.
Many clustered up is an opportunity rich Target. Also internal frictions will occur. Annually your group will breathe out some members. So annually you have to vet in newcomers. Then cliques form. The Originals. The once replacements, Newers. This years, New-New.
We “English” colonial-territorials (hurts for an American to say this) have our histories of not villages, but free-standing homesteads. Not alone by any means. Neighbors and common interests associations were, and are, our support systems.

I am beginning to hear here that this is foreign concept to the European minds experiences of a thousand years of villages.
Oh we have those here too. They are called small towns. Those living in them are called Townies.
In Yacolt valley my neighboring Town has expanded now for decades too far into our Lives. Sewer will be next forcing us off of our own septic system. They sent a letter stating that the supplied water has had too high of copper for years. They will have a remedial system up and running soon. The letter never said, “We are sorry.”
Bye-Bye Townies. Good luck, if and when the wheels come off, and the trucks stop delivering.

I, my wife and anyone under our roof . . . and our associated friends will all be O.K. We practical practice, continually every year.
Steve Unruh

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Regardless of what you think SHTF means, we are not being ushered back into the 19th century even though many may long for that result. When a hurricane or tornado wipes out a community leaving only rubble then it’s the people themselves that rebuild. Not FEMA, Not HHS. Certainly time is involved. 20 years of rebuilding is nothing. a speck of time. We have skills and knowledge which most of us never get a chance to fully explore. There is always a roadblock by some bureaucrat flexing his tiny muscle afraid that you may find out how unnecessary and obsolete he is. When his kind are gone and your shackles are unlocked you are going to be amazed at what free people can actually do. All these years you have lived thinking that you were free because you were programmed to believe so, you were actually enslaved, dumbed down and played with. There were no real choices over who controlled your rights. You were given choices acceptable to the people running the game. There were no wars defending democracy or anyone’s freedom. There were war games played so that pawns could be sacrificed to allow an elite group to amass more precious resources, money and power. They never got their hands dirty. You have no enemies in distant lands. They are just people trying to get on with living the same as you. I don’t expect you to study all the mechanization’s that have been employed in this 6000 year chess game but you should know that pretty much everything you were taught is a lie and most of what you think has been programmed into you. There are only a very few basic laws that you need to follow. Not the thousands written up by politicians who are taking orders from the people actually moving the pieces around on the board. When the dust has settled people will rebuild, dis-guarding what does not serve the greater good and recommitting to technologies that will. We are at war. It is us against them. Us being soul-full human beings and them soulless despots. They have their mercenaries hired to terrorize us into compliance and they are scary bastards. You cannot fight them with weapons. You can beat them with defiance. There are just too many of us for them to do anything with if they can’t divide and conquer. Your best weapon is the middle finger.

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Demon Cratius

Slowly, the slaves walked one after another, each carrying a polished stone. Four lines, each one and a half kilometers long, from the stonecutters to the place where the construction of the fortress city began, were guarded. A dozen slaves relied on one armed guard warrior.

Away from the marching slaves, on top of a thirteen-meter man-made mountain of polished stones, sat Cratius, one of the high priests; for four months silently watched what was happening. No one distracted him, no one, even with a glance, dared to interrupt his thoughts. Slaves and guards perceived the artificial mountain with a throne on top as an integral part of the landscape. And no one paid any attention to the person, now sitting motionless on the throne, now walking along the platform on the top of the mountain.

Cratius set himself the task of rebuilding the state, strengthening the power of the priests for a millennium, subordinating all the people of the Earth to them, making them all, including the rulers of states, slaves of the priests.

One day, Cratius went downstairs, leaving his double on the throne. The priest changed clothes, took off his wig. He ordered his chief of the guard to chain him, Cratia, like a simple slave, and put him in line behind a young and strong slave named Nard.

Looking into the faces of the slaves, Cratius noticed that this young man had an inquisitive and evaluating look, and not a wandering or detached one, like many. Nard’s face was either concentrated, thoughtful, or excited. So he’s hatching some plan of his own, the priest realized, but he wanted to be sure how accurate his observation was.

For two days, Cratius watched Nard, silently carrying stones, sat next to him during the meal and slept next to him on the bunk. On the third night, as soon as the command “Sleep” was received, Cratius turned to the young slave and in a whisper, with bitterness and despair, uttered a question addressed to someone incomprehensibly:

Will it continue like this for the rest of your life?

The priest saw: the young slave shuddered and instantly turned around to face the priest, his eyes shining. They sparkled even in the dim light of the burners of the big barracks.

“It won’t be like this for long. I’m thinking of a plan. And you, old man, can also take part in it,” the young slave whispered.

  • What’s the plan? the priest asked indifferently and with a sigh.

Nard passionately and confidently began to explain:

“And you, old man, and I, and all of us will soon be free people, not slaves. You count, old man: for every ten slaves there is one guard. And fifteen slaves who cook food and sew clothes are also watched by one guard. If at the appointed hour we all attack the guard, we will defeat it. Let the guards be armed, and we be in chains. There are ten of us each, and the chains can also be used as weapons, exposing them to the blow of the sword. We will disarm all the guards, tie them up and take possession of the weapons.

“Oh, young man,” Cratius sighed again and, as if indifferently, said, “your plan is not well thought out: the guards who are watching us can be disarmed, but soon the ruler will send new ones, maybe even a whole army, and kill the rebellious slaves.

“I thought about that too, old man. We must choose a time when there will be no army. And this time is coming. We all see how the army is being prepared for the march. Provisions are being prepared for a three-month journey. This means that in three months the army will come to the appointed place and enter the battle. In the battle, she will weaken, but she will win, she will capture many new slaves. New barracks are already being built for them. We must begin to disarm the guards as soon as our ruler’s army enters battle with another army. It will take the messengers a month to deliver a message for an immediate return. The weakened army will return for at least three months. In four months we will be able to prepare for the meeting. We will be no less than the soldiers in the army. The captured slaves will want to be with us when they see what happened. I got it right, old man.

“Yes, young man, with a plan, with your thoughts, you can disarm the guards and defeat the army,” the priest answered already encouragingly and added: “but then what will the slaves do, and what will happen to the rulers, guards and soldiers?

  • I thought about it a little. And while one thing comes to mind: all who were slaves will not become slaves. All those who are not slaves today will be slaves, - as if thinking aloud, Nard answered not quite confidently.

  • And the priests? Tell me, young man, to the slaves or not the slaves of the priests, when you win, will rank priests ?

— Priests? I didn’t think about that either. But now I suppose: let the priests remain as they are. They are listened to by slaves, rulers. Although it is sometimes difficult to understand them, I think they are harmless. Let them talk about the gods, but we ourselves know our own life, how best to live.

“It’s better—it’s good,” the priest replied, and pretended to be terribly sleepy.

But Cratius did not sleep that night. He thought. “Of course,” Cratius thought, “the easiest way is to inform the ruler about the plot, and they will seize the young slave, he is clearly the main inspirer for others. But that won’t solve the problem. The desire for liberation from slavery will always be among the slaves. New leaders will appear, new plans will be developed, and if so, the main threat to the state will always be present inside the state. Cratius was faced with the task of developing a plan for the enslavement of the whole world. He understood that it would not be possible to achieve the goal with the help of physical violence alone. It is necessary to have a psychological impact on each person, on entire nations. It is necessary to transform human thought, to inspire everyone: slavery is the highest good. It is necessary to launch a self-developing program that will disorient entire nations in space, time and concepts. But the most important thing is in an adequate perception of reality. Cratia’s thought worked faster and faster, he stopped feeling the body, the heavy shackles on his arms and legs. And suddenly, like a flash of lightning, a program appeared. Not yet detailed and inexplicable, but already felt and burning with its scale. Cratius felt himself the sole ruler of the world.

The priest lay on the bunk, shackled, and admired himself: “Tomorrow morning, when everyone is taken to work, I will give a signal, and the head of the guard will order me to be taken out of the line of slaves, to remove the shackles. I detail my program, say a few words, and the world will begin to change. Incredible! Just a few words - and the whole world will obey me, my thought. God really gave man a power that has no equal in the universe, this power is human thought. It produces words and changes the course of history. An unusually fortunate situation has developed. The slaves prepared a plan for an uprising. It is rational, this plan, and it can obviously lead to a positive intermediate result for them. But with just a few phrases, I will force not only them, but also the descendants of today’s slaves, and even the rulers of the earth, to be slaves for thousands of years to come.

In the morning, at a sign from Cratia, the head of the guard removed the shackles from Cratia. And the very next day, the other five priests and the pharaoh were invited to his observation platform.

Cratius began his speech before the assembled:

“What you are about to hear should not be written down or retold by anyone. There are no walls around us, and no one but you will hear my words. I came up with a way to turn all people living on Earth into slaves of our pharaoh. To do this, even with the help of numerous troops and exhausting wars, is impossible. But I will do it in a few sentences. Only two days will pass after they are pronounced, and you will see how the world will begin to change. Look: below, long lines of chained slaves carry one stone at a time. They are guarded by many soldiers. The more slaves, the better for the state - that’s what we always thought. But the more slaves, the more one has to fear their rebellion. We’re beefing up security. We have to feed our slaves well, otherwise they will not be able to do hard physical work. But they are still lazy and rebellious. See how slowly they move, and the lazy guards do not drive them with whips and do not beat them, even healthy and strong slaves. But they will move much faster. They don’t need guards. The guards will also turn into slaves. You can do something like this.

Today, before sunset, let the heralds spread the decree of the pharaoh, which will say: “With the dawn of a new day, complete freedom is granted to all slaves. For each stone delivered to the city, a free person will receive one coin. Coins can be exchanged for food, clothes, housing, a palace in the city, and the city itself. From now on you are free people.

When the priests realized what Cratius had said, one of them, the oldest in age, said:

“You are a demon, Cratius. The multitude of earthly peoples conceived by you will be covered with demonism.

“Let me be a demon, and let people call what I have conceived democracy in the future.

The decree was announced to the slaves at sunset, they were amazed, and many did not sleep at night, thinking about a new happy life.

In the morning of the next day, the priests and the pharaoh again climbed to the platform of the artificial mountain. The picture presented to their eyes was amazing. Thousands of people, former slaves, raced to drag the same stones as before. Drenched in sweat, many carried two stones. Others, who had one each, fled, kicking up dust. Some of the guards were also carrying stones. People who considered themselves free - after all, the shackles were removed from them - sought to get as many coveted coins as possible in order to build their happy life.

Kratiy spent a few more months on his site, watching with satisfaction what was happening below.

And the changes were huge. Some of the slaves united in small groups, built carts and, loaded to the top with stones, sweating, pushed these carts.

“They will invent many more devices,” Cratius thought to himself with satisfaction, “now internal services have already appeared: peddlers of water and food.”

Some of the slaves ate right on the go, not wanting to waste time on the road to the hut for eating, and paid with the coins they received.

“Wow, and the doctors appeared with them: right on the go they provide assistance to the victims, and also for coins. And the traffic controllers were chosen. Soon they will choose their own bosses, judges. Let them choose: after all, they consider themselves free, but the essence has not changed, they still drag stones … "

And so they run through the millennia, in the dust, drenched in sweat, dragging heavy stones. And today the descendants of those slaves continue their senseless run.

Author Vladimir Megre. Translate Google.

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And it is ok. If you get the feeling that you are free, that is enough to be happy.

Cratius didnt invent money. Money is just a very convenient way to trade stuff. It is genetic that people abuse this.

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Very nice story indeed.
But one dimensional.
“Civilization”, societies, tribes even, always evolve to becoming much more complex.
There will always be the one who will not work for coin or even self-esteem. Their work is to shirk work. They beg. They plead for for their needs. Seen in children. Children you guide to grow up and become responsible. Adults accepted as children is just so, so, wrong.
And another one who sees those who do work for coin or self-esteem as dumb-dumb sheep to be shorn. They thieve, they steal for their wants and needs. They then force others to assume roles to raise the prices of their activities. Counter-force.
And another one who will see those who work for coin and self-esteem as an audience needing to be entertained, by their creativities. For coin exchange. To be given for their wants and needs. Pay them some as you wish. But always keep them hungry. Never, ever, worship them. Their never ending creativity is their own obsessions. Do not make theirs; yours.

So which to be, eh?
Put on the role of one to blend-in. Choose one that will allow you the most uninvolved time to then go out and instead produce and supply for your own needs. A role you can stomach, and still retain an ethical core that will yours, and yours alone.
And along the road of your Life if you kill off a priest or two that will at lease tone down their insufferable arrogances.
They are weeds like many of these others who will never actually produce for themselves their wants and needs.
You can never eliminate all of the weeds. Every growth season they will come back. Accept the world space you can control and make that your place. English Common Law forced again and again onto the arrogant, the brainiacs, the entitled, the elitist.
The American revolution and independence development was just a geographical expansion and application of centuries of English Common Law developments.
The French Revolution was far different. Without already centuries evolved purpose it devolved into chaos. That stabilized by a military dictatorship called Napoleon.
The Russian Revolution was far different also. Oh they had a plan, those revolutionaries. With books of planning even. Write by new priests. Soon it evolved to force these plan-goals against human nature; making water flow uphill so to speak; it would need a perpetual dictatorship also. The Party.

Again you will be wise to assume a role. And play it enough. Enough to meet the standards of the world you find yourself existing in. Always, always retaining enough of each day, hours, to be in your core your own ethical world. Symbiotic with those around you.

Being an always the irritating popping back up nail will aways attract getting hammered back down. Todays Activists, hacktivists, is not a job that should earn coin or accolades rewards. Just another way to get others to provide for your needs. Parasite. Like many of the other non-producers.
Be a producer. But be a smart independent producer, with ethics.
S.U.

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Amen. If I cant build something I am unhappy and there is a feeling of not contributing.

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