Air Carbon Fuel Cell

True story… Going to work and stop for gasoline right by work. Get out of the car, swipe the card, push the button and pick up the hose. Next within 30 seconds or less a car pulls up on the other side of the pumps. Next a car pulls up in front of the first car and a third car pulls behind the first car. The dude or dudes in the third car jump out with guns yelling get out of the car now. Next they stash the dude that was in the first car in the third car. A dude and gun gets out of the second car and jumps in the first car and they all take off before I can procces what happened. I stood there stunned holding the hose…!

Nothing on the news or news paper about it. They were real pro’s who ever they were.

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i just ordered a 60% up mixture… @ the local pharmacy… lets wait and see what happens… :grin: most of them are aware of my work around here…

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Please be careful.

I do not feel good about this.

Many years ago I used this with a strong base to control odors in an industrial plant.
My job was to keep the pumps and mixers running.
A fellow can get some very serious burns by accidentally making the wrong moves here Koen.

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Next time the grate will be tee shaped, better balance. Also, a space to stick my ignition torch in.

Nice to be able to shake your grates.

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That looks pretty cool, though I’m a bit lost on what you’re doing here and why. Could you please explain a bit more?

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Hi Brian,

Two part grate. A left and right hand side. The bolt welded to the fin is at the bottom. Makes something to shake the grate with and helps to level the grate because of the lower center of gravity. Also helps to cool the grate. Just a bit more user friendly. The long bolt is just the hinge bolt. Need two, one for each half. Only one is shown. A long rod would work just the same. The pan keeps the rod/bolt from working out.

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Brian, I didn’t understand it until I seen it in person. It doesn’t have a pipe for the the air inlet. This picture is looking up from the bottom. The spacing of the bolts are small enough so charcoal can’t fall through. A metal plate hinges off both bolts. The bottom two bolts are just weights.
Jeff bypassed burning up pipes by not having them.

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I like it, but why does one side have 2 “fingers”, and the other side has three?

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Hi Carl,

I was in a bind for time, ideas and the direction to go. So, I was not sure what direction to go until the last moment. Next time it will have an equal number of fingers and in the shape of a tee. But this time I just had to make it fit in a space that was going to have just a heavy gage metal screen… So, it’s extra custom last minute fit. :cry:

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Ahhh! Now I see it. The picture of them on the garage floor has them “back to back” and upside down, correct?

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You got it, Brian. I had to grind the bottom of the bolts because they hit the bottom of the pan.

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Some refractory mix’s will not stick to metal but furnace cement sticks nicely to metal and my guess is that the refractory will bond some to the furnace cement. So I first apply furnace cement to the bottom of the tank then sand it a bit to roughen the surface some. Before that I use heat to help remove some of the surface oil on the bottom of the tank plus sand paper and a solvent like Colmen cook stove fuel. Most of my tanks had some kind of oil in them. I also drill four holes in the tank and install four bolts that stand up inside the tank. This gives something for the refractory to hold on to. The last step is to cast the refractory.

Inside.

That’s the only photos that I have.

Next I’ll dig up what refractory I used.

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This is the last refractory I used. Only time will tell how it will hold up.

Sorry, kind of hard to read. You might have to down load it to read it.

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I should also place the filter photos here. Mostly slip fit thin wall PVC. Subpump hose snugged up with fence wire. Cotton sock material poor choice because it can stretch and open up the weave. Will replace some day. Top and bottom easy slip fit.

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I’ve been wanting to Bri g this up for at least a year now and now I have a bit of time. In one of those Tom Reed books it talked about gasifier air ratio, or something like that. I always wondered how in the world could that be controlled. I am not saying this is how it is done but here is my story.

I always made provisions for easy air intake into the humidifier pan. The last version I simplified it by using four wire spacers that made a space between the pan and the bottom of the producer. About a year or longer ago I forgot to install the wire spacers so the air was in shut down mode. The engine seemed to run better that day and when it was time to shut it down I discovered the air inlet was shut off. Of course I’m sure some air can leak by but I can not see any gap!

In the past I always found improved performance by reducing restriction. Allow the engine to breath easier. This time it seems the opposite. Could it be possible that it is best to reduce restriction right up to where all the action is, the reduction area but then choke the intake down a bit to make a small amount of vacuum when the gas is created??

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Thanks for sharing this experience. This should be easy to test for those of us using horizontal pipes to feed our tuyeres. Just install a gate valve and play with the combustion air and EGR settings (and H2O drip) for optimum power under load.

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My grate is about 2" diameter so that would be like a 2" nozzle. But I also have an air inlet. So your small nozzle might be like my choked air inlet. So, the question then becomes, is it higher air velocity or vacuum at the site of gas generation that helps.

So a test with a nozzle producer might be to start with a very large nozzle ( too large) then see what happens when the choke off valve starts closing.

It ran fine before the air was choked but seemed to run a bit better when choked.

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Maybe the vacuum makes more steam.

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Good thought. The improvement may be from superficial velocity, but wouldn’t the restricted higher speed air slow down when it passed into the 2 inch diameter area that feeds the grate? Perhaps inserting smaller diameter pipes into our nozzles or grate tubes might be a better test of the superficial velocity theory?

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That is the common idea. But what if it was because of vacuum at the site of gas generation. If air blown gasifier performs the same as a suction gasifier I would have to say no.

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