My first small engine run

Hi All,
I’ve moved on to the hopper and put it on a work table. Now with a 4’ step ladder I can wrestle it around.

I removed 2 of the inspection/cleanout covers.

The grate can be maneuvered for hopper to burner shell nut removal and cleaning.

Hopper to burner shell gasket. This is fiberglass stove gasket impregnated with 600*F red silicone. Worked well, came off easily with a thin putty knife and no evidence of leak trails across the gasket faces. I will clean it up with lacquer thinner, skim coat it to smooth it over, let it set and reuse it. No leak trails on the hopper connection.

Burner insert to burner shell gasket. This is 1/2" fiberglass stove gasket impregnated with Flamebuster suggested by Tom Collins. This held up well with no evidence of leaks. This is hard as Tom said, but it didn’t leak an iota. It cracked when I separated the parts and broke up when I removed it. This came off quite easily, didn’t seem “glued” to the surfaces.

Also notice the new heatsink lip on the inner edge of that face. I’m real happy with these results.

The new heavy screen basket type grate under the hourglass hearth holds a very large amount of glowing char in the reduction zone. With the hourglass hearth gasketed and bolted to the firetube, the gas has only one way to exit, through the restriction.

The basket grate.

Note the char build up under the grate. This is probably 12 hrs or so of burn. Another part of the 75%, learn when to do a clean out before the buildup interferes with the free flow of gas through the char bed on the grate. Interesting, I’ll have to watch my burn videos again and see if some swirl burner anomalies started. Maybe color change, size of swirl burner flame, increasing?, decreasing? I’ll let you know if I find anything. This pan is holding 6 gallons! This had to have some adverse affect gas/flame color/size,etc. I’ll do some single fire cleanouts. Start clean, weigh it in, weigh it out. It’ll probably surprise me.
Pepe

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Look at all that nice charcoal. That is perfect for running a Gilmore Simple-fier. That would be something that would be better to run small one cylinder engines on AND ----- much simpler to build that another Imbert. That beautiful charcoal is the reason I posted that design with another nozzle under the grate pointing up ---- to try and burn that charcoal into more CO. Looking good Pepe TomC

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Hey All,
I mistakenly posted this under another topic to illustrate a possible shielding device for the charcoal gasifier thermocouple. This shows the installation process for a thermocouple for my GEK derivative gasifier, one of the improvements I mentioned that I will add this winter.

This will be the tricky part, a through the burner shell airtight connection.
Pepe

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I like it Pepe. Curious to see your results.

Hi All,
Finally got the rentals up to snuff and no vacancies. Now I can begin my gasifier upgrades starting with lengthening the internal air intake pipes.

First to get to the innards. The impact driver (highly recommended), a bit pricey, but a smile with every nut.

I used this gasket material smeared with FlameBuster caulk and it worked great. This application got very hard and had to be chipped off. It stuck well. The nice thing about this material is that you can easily fit it over the bolt studs to hold it in place.

This design doesn’t lend itself well to previously posted intentions of having a permanently mounted temp sensor at the hearth constriction. I will simply use the lighting port and insert the sensor and measure the temp at the core of the combustion zone occasionally. New gasifier will have probe at the restriction. To see how I made the through the shell ignition port see comment 272 here.

Had to split this up since it wouldn’t load above.

This configuration will triple the length of the 1/2" iron intake tubes further increasing the temp of the preheated air. Ten inches to almost 32 inches. Will be using 1/2" ID soft roll copper and brass flare fittings. I’ll be using a homemade bending jig and filling the tubing with sand to prevent kinking. Hopefully, I’ll be able to make the half loop with its 6" diameter. We’ll see.
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Note on comment 445 above on the through the shell ignition port in comment 270, that part 4 is shown welded and not engaged in part 2. This was done for clarity, but may be confusing anyway. Part 4 should be fully engaged in part 2 BEFORE welding to part 3. This insures an airtight fit when the pieces are screwed together.

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I like it pepe that’s what I was thinking also more preheat I just picked up the brass fittings ouch there went 100+ bucks but all for good. but this design should come apart for cleaning.

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When I saw your unit a few days back those gas fittings jumped right out at me. Copper, yea. There, somebody else is trying it. I have only 1 season or so of any temp records, so not much to compare to. However, hotter is better I would say. I agree with the take apart for cleaning . The lesson is start temp monitoring from the beginning. I’m approaching the 100 ouch mark. Can’t wait to start cutting and fabricating and the ouch will all go away. I’ll be into it after Easter.

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Maybe I missed something here, but what is this in reference to?

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the fittings there only 3-5 bucks each but pick up 20-30 of them.:sob:

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Ah, yes… That does make a fair amount of sense now. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hi Brian,
I meant I spent 100 bucks, too. Once I get my mod done, the pain of spending a c-note will disappear with a smile. I was just trying to be funny with words.
Pepe

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were you able to get your jig made pepe my parts didn’t come till late in the day so no progress here :sob: it supposed to be a little warmer here tomorrow it helps the motivation

Hi Paul,
No, I didn’t. I spent most of the day cleaning chimney and catching up on a few “do it now” chores pushed ahead due to rain. I’ll give it hell tomorrow, though. lol.

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Sacre bleu, we lost internet for a couple of days. Bad modem. I finally got a prototype made and spent 3 hrs doing it. You’ll notice I changed the configuration for ease of forming. I filled the tubing with fine sand, well vibrated and duct taped the ends closed. You still have to be careful not to kink the line. I still have about 3 times the preheat length than before. First cut off old inlets and clean it up good to weld. Then, bend a little, install, remark, uninstall, bend a little more reinstall, etc. Now that I have the bend and fittings configuration, the rest will be quicker. That 1/2" id copper is tough to bend. Pepe

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Half inch soft copper shouldn’t be that hard to bend. Perhaps you need to anneal it first?
Have you heard of the trick of making ice in the tubing to bend it? I haven’t tried it, but it sounds like a cool idea.

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Sounds like a cold idea to me.:grin:

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Most of you probably know better than I do, but a friendly reminder just in case: copper is annealed by a rapid hot-to-cold shock, similar to hardening/quenching steel/iron.

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Pepe,
Doesn’t copper get brittle after heating and cooling at such high temps? I’m not sure but I thought I’ve heard that before.

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