Read for vibration problem.
For sure that 180 degree crankshaft was special to this engine.
Lots of pictures searchable for the IHC 152 and 196 four cylinders. Half-an-eight’s. Cast iron everything, 540 pounds heavy.
Early 60’s was an intersting engine time with both Pontiac and Jeep having overhead camshaft I-6’s.
Buick/Pontiac/Oldmobile 215 aluminum V-8’s (I had one). Design and casting molds later sold to Rover.
And AMC’s super strong and stiff 232 I-6 (I had one). To become Jeeps 4.0L. The best Jeep factory motor.
S.U.
Having a hard time visualizing what you are saying Rindert. I did not know about those Pontiac engines. When I met my wife she had a Plymouth something or other with a slant six. In three years she had never changed the oil but just added to it. I pulled the valve cover and you could barely chip off the sludge but somehow that engine ran fine. I advised her to sell it ASAP. The idea about the I/c engine plus compressor is just something I’ve let rattle around in my bony head for a while. I can see bettor solutions, such and running a regular compressor pump off a Transmission PTO. But then you are eating up quite a bit of bed space and a good durable pump putting out the kinds of CFM I’d like is not a cheap proposition. I don’t really trust the durability of the HF pumps and the cheap ones on E bay seem like a total crap shoot to me. The idea of making a significant quantity of air and only having to spring for a few check valves does appeal to me if it’s at all possible. I haven’t really checked out what’s on line about it. Like I said, I’m just trying to plan some possible project to get me through the five and a half months of winter. Seriously thinking about making some kind of gasified UTV out of that Jimmy though.
Scratch what I said before.
Some very good compressors have been made from scrapped Refrigerators and Air Conditioners. Automotive A/C units have a 12V magnetic clutch built in that might be just what you are looking for. Just be careful to recirculate the lubricating oil.
Rindert
I had the dubious honor of owning both the Pontiac and ''corn binder ‘’ 4 cylinders. Never put many miles on the IH. The Pontiac, can’t tell you how many timing chains I put in it. Not that it adds to the discussion on air compressors but that Pontiac had a differential / transmission combination on the rear. To add to that it had a ‘‘flexible drive shaft’’ that was to lower the hump in the floor? TomC
Still mulling over the idea of building a UTV from the 4.3 liter GMC I have, using the WK gasifier I built some years back. The gasifier was not intended to go in a vehicle and I only had an 8 inch fire tube available when I built it so I doubt it would run that engine but according to the Ben Peterson book his design will run up to an 5 liter engine with that size fire tube. Recently read here about mixing charcoal in with the wood chunked fuel. Anybody want to guess how much more gas I would get out of my 8 inch system by doing that? This vehicle will never do highway duty. It would just be for work around the homestead but will have to do hills and decent torque would be more important than horsepower. Think along the lines of a WW2 Jeep. I could just build another charcoal powerplant for this project but I want to explore all aspects of the technology.
Hey. Hey. Mr Tom.
I did load up and look over your referred to site.
I’ve been a longtime subscriber to the Back Woods Home magazine. Different focus for sure. LIVING the life. Not escaping from life.
The 2nd generation there attempted to set up an on-line Forum discussions group. It flopped. They did not try to moderate it. It ran wild. Became a ship of fools. Zero practical use woodgas interest there.
Your Practical Survivalist group has one multi-use woodgas, show-it video.
Shows well why you are here. To learn to do it right.
Some come here inspired by Mr Testolorsian. That’s O.K.
Why he is not respected here is in this 2017 video. He show’s flaring tars laden pyrolysis smoke. And calling this woodgas. NOT. Woodgas has been first converted to hot, hot carbon dioxide and H2O vapor. Then with slow forced passing these through a glowing bed of pure woodchar coal with virtually no free oxygen molecularly reduces to CO and H2 and CH4.
The glowing wood charcoal give up hot energetic C molecules to strip out the hot H2O and CO2 oxygen molecules. You must marry with me! Only Me!
Glowing hot woodcharcoal heat “disappears” (get chemically stored) in the relatively unstable resulting CO, H2 and CH4.
Take these fuel gases, add some atmospheric oxygen, and ignition source and you get the “disappeared” (stored) heats back.
Not easy. Controlled thermal-chemical steps. With annoying residuals leftovers produced at every step.
But we here do this every day.
I just do not understand this man. He should know by now.
He should either bed set up start with premade wood charcoal. Or open top burn reverse forced air until he gets an in-place charcoal bed burnt down formed. This is old, old knowledge.
The problem for the Practical Survivalist group is if this one presentation is so impractical/unusable: all others will be judged the same.
Oh. Well.
You do better. Then ask them to overlay your work.
For any who think I am being too critical watch this video:
Vesa Mikkonen showing his 1000km in use gasifier services.
620 miles.
“I think” that’d be 600-800 pounds of wood used.
Those annoying residuals do add up.
The proof of an experienced designer/presenter is how well he handles these inevitables.
W.K. has his maintenances points videoed in different videos. His using wetter and higher resin-pitch woods does have refined out asphalt like tertiary tars removals.
Pyrolysis smoke tars are not an annoying residual but unused HC&O’s that should be fuel molecules.
Any fellow saying just wash, or filtering these out is still stuck on make woodgas step 2.
You will clog up any filtering system. Water washed out pollute any aquifer.
NO. Convert theses as thouroly as possible. If just to save you down stream clogging headaches.
Step 3.
Steve, I’m confused. Are you advocating for a non-condensing hopper now?
Tar removal is lost fuel - yes, but isn’t less cooling steam dragged through the charbed a greater benefit? (which in turn prevents downstream tar)
Also, store bought wood tar is ~ $200 a gallon here. I wouldn’t mind my gasifier producing an even higher tar/btu-ratio
Not about escaping from life Steve. It’s about self reliance.
A lot of folks I’m cyber associated with were part of the Backwoods Home Forum. A lot of us came from a site called Homesteading today. Folks on both those sites never missed a chance to let you know how stupid you were on any subject. Nobody needed that. Now I will only associate with people like those here. Despite some of you having a pretty vast knowledge on these subjects I haven’t seen anyone talk down to us greenhorns.
I’m not promoting Practical Survivalist or any other prepper site. Just thought they had a few interesting builds. Same with Pinterest.
Hi back TomH.
I did not mean to offend. I’d signed up for the Backwoods Home Forum. Read it. Found nothing woodgas related. Considered going active info there . . . . the vib was all wrong. Too wild-wild west even for me.
Anyhow. The kids went with the sister mag Self-Reliance. Then BWH mag went electronic only. A mistake. I and many other did not follow. Now both back in subscribable print.
Hurrah.
J.O. not at all on the non-condnesing hopper. Is a Must IMHO.
Just trying to explain short hand why V.M. doesn’t show much concern for tars collecting and draining. Very. Very dry wood. Birch wood. Not a conifer wood.
Ha! Ha! Wifie gifted old-man-me this year with 5 cord of bought out supplied wood. 5x132 cubic feet. None of our ~40 remaining 135 foot D.F.'s blew down . The supplier has some unusual yard trees mixed in with the standard Doulas Fir.
Shaggy bark elm. Some kind of true birch. I’ve only ever had some paper birch in the past.
These are certainty burning, coaling, and ashing different.
And their density is always throwing off my experiences judgments learned on D.F., western red cedar, red alder, and maple.
Bad as when in the past I’ve had one trees worth of apple, cherry and such. By the time I learn, I am out of the rare-wood and back to my D.F.
Ash. Endless Ash and all killed by a little green bug that hardly anyone ever saw.
Not offended Steve. Words like prepper and Survivalist evoke images of wacko’s in bunkers. Of course some of that but the negativity is mostly media driven. My Grandparents were farm people. My grandfather worked as a mechanic at the county garage during the off-season. They went through the Great Depression and were basically never affected. The depression for most people around here was something you heard about on the radio or in the newspaper. That was because they always had food growing or stored. My great uncle had a big farm, mostly orchards and he had two Jacobs wind plants in the late 1930’s. He was just about the only person around with electricity. The REA did not get most of this area powered until the 1940’s. A lot of radios were powered by batteries that you had to swap in and out of a vehicle. My idea of prepping is pretty much the same as theirs. Going hungry is just a bad plan. Worse is not making provisions for a sustainable drinking water supply.
Or, cold in the winter waiting for the coal train to arrive . . . .
The Russian energy giants to turn back on the natural gas flow . . . .
The Nuke power plant to come back on-line . . . .
The big hydro-electric producers to not jack you around beholding to the latest heart-bleed . . .
Yep. ONLY wood is the real peoples fuel.
Only local wood can you scrounge, harvest, prep and squirrel away to keep you and yours winter warmed is real.
S.U.
TomH. it was transferred over to the Premium side.
All WK book designs are Premium side.
Still here. Can be viewed by all Premium payed up members.
Access by opening up the stacked paper looking top tool bar icon. Select Premium.
New to me! access opening up the top bar flame icon. Click “all categories” box. Premium is there too.
S.U.
Didn’t know about not posting about a WK design. Had almost reached the crux of the biscuit too. Can’t afford the membership right now. Didn’t find the premium selector. I’m not sure if I can even discuss the question without crossing any lines. I understand how the site is financed. Didn’t mean to screw up. I guess I’ll have to figure it out by myself. Thanks for unconfusing me.
SooKay TomH.
Thanks for understandings.
It’s more about preserving site self-financing versus “hiding Tech from the world”.
Single payer supported woodgas sites have a nasty habit of going poop!! when the originator aged out, or lost interest.
Ha! Ha! With many of us willingly paying in not even WK building shows the depth to carry on this site. Aitta’goona be no poof, here.
In the past the Administrator or one of us Premium member have $$ sponsored a fellow in, gratis.
True gratis in acknowledgment of their active site contributions and even balance of personality.
Keep up you good works man, and maybe a Christmas surprise present heading your way.
S.U.
I appreciate that Steve but not to worry. Right now I’m just over extending trying to stock up on things I believe may not be available soon. Before long I’ll get the premium membership because I agree that this site should be supported. Not many around where there are more builders the mouth runners. Very appreciative to be in this company. Feel free to delete that thread. It was mostly for my benefit anyway.
