Second “comercial” run was sucsessfull.
Havent weighted the sacks yet but l wuld WAG there is about a good 20 pounds in each. Closer to 30. Those 5 paper bags of premium BBQ charcoal alone are worth about 100$. And about as much charcoal is in the white bag, finer stuff, great for gasifier fuel or for the garden. There is so much of it because l had to quench a hot spot and while perfectly good for home use, l dont dare to sell it.
Kristijan,
What bags are you using for your charcoal. I use plastic garbage bags usually pushed into a sack for strength and durability. I would like a single sturdier bag.
Steve, the paper bags are ment for sale. The big plastic bags l got years ago from a guy, no idea what they are for. But l am not a fan of neither. Paper is useless in moist conditions and they both tear. My preffered soft packageing is either thick plastic wowen big bag, or a smaller 60 pound same material grain bag. Durable! But will let dust trugh some. Still, better to get some dust trugh a loose part of a wowen mesh thain a big tear in a garbage bag…
My preffered is hard packaging. Plastic buckets. And, for the engine grade char, l plan to make a silo out of OSB boards that will hold acouple of cubic yards.
Dave
A sub called Kursk, its also a city, and the largest tank battle in history was fought there. But I was not sure that’s where Kris was going with this.
I could call something a Tatra and you might think its about brand of beer, or a car from the czech republic, and I might mean a mountain range in Poland.
Its a BIG tank of some kind at any rate… Is танк what you mean Kris HA HA???
I was thinking that it was because of the remote resemblance to a submarine.
Kristijan, about the charcoal bags. I have used the plastic garbage bags inside the corn grain sacks with the thought of keeping moisture from being absorbed by the charcoal and also to contain the dust. I think the dust would filter through the corn sacks without the plastic liner. A plastic bag, heavy enough to be reusable would be nice.
Yesterday we talked a little with Kristjan about the co-production of wood tar and wood vinegar in cooking charcoal, and here I am attaching a sketch. Let me also mention that Kristjan provided me with a premium membership, … thank you.
Seems simple. Am i correct in thinking that the vinegar is still in gaseous state when it bypassed the tar dump? How would you assure that it only dropped out after that?
I would maybe use a water jacket with natural thermo-siphoning. Would cool it a lot faster and more thoroughly especially considering the size of Kristijan’s kiln.
Kristijan,
I have been thinking about doing something like this too. It might be a next step toward building a bio-products refinery. This might be a way for a farmer to work during the cold winter months. The cold will make the condenser work better. Will you be able to sell the tar and vinegar?
Rindert
Well; welcome to the Premium-side TONE.
400+ topics. 120+ systems proposed, started on; and built; running.
Just realize this accumulation of since 2012 can be quite a river to jump into.
Have fun info-swimming.
Steve unruh
I am afraid a water jacket wuld be too cool. If tar gets too cold its basicly chewing gum.
Wood vinegar, can I use it for anything?
wood vinegar as a spray and disinfectant, in fact, when smoking meat, vinegar is absorbed into the meat and in addition to salt acts as a preservative, even at this time Covid could easily be used to disinfect rooms and hands
Thank you Tone, I had no knowledge of that, I had it to remove grass between the plates with last summer.
WoW!!!
Do you have an OHM meter - Ω ?
That sounds like it may have transformed at least partly to graphite.
Good morning Kristijan and Tone;
On your distillation apparatus once you determine the best angles; lengths and cooling rates you might what to consider making a second one, in-parallel.
You kiln once up to heating and producing is not going to want to stop until the mass is completed outgassing.
Be a shame when the distiller clogs to have to then just dump out your hot out-gasses to the atmosphere.
Cut in the 2nd apparatus.
And as any who have worked around heated vaporized and/or fine ground liquified slurries . . . it will always slowly inner walls deposit; flows slow, and clog.
The new-mans break-in/low-mans job . . . . cleaning the equipment’s between cycles.
Regards
Steve Unruh
Kristijan,
That sounds and looks like that super-high quality “white charcoal” so prized by the Japanese for their formal Tea Ceremony. Those are individually wrapped and sold at upscale stores!! Wow!! 
Wood vinegar and potatoes seemed to work for me. Sprayed it on the leaves.
